Laggy in playlist?
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I'm not sure what the problem is... Can you please make a video?WBGS-Founder said:When I put my cursor over the mp3's its very laggy in the playlist any ideas or help to get around this its hard to drag and drop from my music libraries when it is laggy. :'( :'(
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Ron
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I only use 3 DSP plugins and tracks what the point if I can't have tracks for my radio you know that's why I bought this for my radio, I need tracks lol like I say it only lags in playlist 3 plugins should not cause a change but ill minimize plugins as much as possible and test again. Here is jusr 2 DSP plugins still lagging weird? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1o112j_radio-boss-2-dsp-plugins
Ron
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Well, what's the point of the play list if your only playing 100 songs the music library is to find a song that's requested or find featured artist or something easy like that so yeah how I use it and its no different than Sam broadcaster just your program lags maybe in the future that will be fixed? Maybe Dual core optimization or something to improve this for dual cores?
Radio is usually more complicated than simply a big playlist playing in random order
Most people configure it like this: create a playlist (for 1-24 hours depending on station format) and then insert it at appropriate time - all this is automated using the scheduler. The playlist has music from the library, jingles, hits etc.
The lag you're experiencing is because RB calculates a lot of things for the playlist: start times, durations, tags, etc - (note that duration/start time is not a simple addition - it takes into account file types, crossfades and some other things). It's already optimized to utilize all the cores/processors the computer has - it's just not supposed to have tens of thousands of tracks in the playlist. I'll add it as a bug so it'll be able to handle huge playlists as well, but that's not a big priority.
Most people configure it like this: create a playlist (for 1-24 hours depending on station format) and then insert it at appropriate time - all this is automated using the scheduler. The playlist has music from the library, jingles, hits etc.
The lag you're experiencing is because RB calculates a lot of things for the playlist: start times, durations, tags, etc - (note that duration/start time is not a simple addition - it takes into account file types, crossfades and some other things). It's already optimized to utilize all the cores/processors the computer has - it's just not supposed to have tens of thousands of tracks in the playlist. I'll add it as a bug so it'll be able to handle huge playlists as well, but that's not a big priority.
Ron
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Well, all I can say is other big brand software already support this should be your number-one thing you did out of the box a should have been a play list with huge support. it is what it says, and I am not gona do 3 things just to play songs I have my promos and ads on a schedule that's fine but the play list. I don't know another software like Sam Broadcast is ahead in this department I was just saying this so you can get ahead that's all you got to do to make this better this and fix a little bugs here and there that's it may be in the future thanks for your time.
Most radios do not work this way. Having a big shuffled playlist doesn't give you any control on station's format and quality. For instance, artists and albums will be played with no repeat control and you'll be unable to make your station DMCA compliant (*).
I'll see what we can do for the optimizations, but it's not a priority as very few people need it.
(*) DMCA rules, very short version:
In any 3-hour period:
- No more than 3 songs from one album; no more than 2 played consecutively
- No more than 4 songs from a set/compilation; no more than 3 played consecutively
- No more than 4 recorded songs by the same artist
I'll see what we can do for the optimizations, but it's not a priority as very few people need it.
(*) DMCA rules, very short version:
In any 3-hour period:
- No more than 3 songs from one album; no more than 2 played consecutively
- No more than 4 songs from a set/compilation; no more than 3 played consecutively
- No more than 4 recorded songs by the same artist
Ron
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No, the DMCA doesn't apply in Canada because it's a part of the Copyright Act 1976, which is US law. However, Canada does have a DMCA-like law, which is the Copyright Modernization Act. Also I have already contacted Socan about this there is no law like this just personal preference any how I tihnk my radio will be in check either way just personal preference I am in Canada and that law does not apply for me.
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pety
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In professional Radio never play huge playlists. A Schedule is made hour-by-hour. Everything is programmed to start exactly in it's time. Nobody can manage all events in large playlists. Winamp or Aimp is for huge playlists but they are not RAS.
Ron
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I don't know where you guys learn this from but in my option that's wrong in aimp3 it's easier why cause you can search for what you wanna play, in fact, its easier for people who request a song, I don't get the point of searching for a song with 3 songs in a play list and dragging over also I don't get the point of loading scheduling all my music also a play list is to play music now I do understand scheduling ads and promos and stuff like that. However, a play list is where all your tracks are put to be played, and if I have to put only three songs there, then I'll have to sit at my PC every day 24/7 get no sleep to monitor a radio station I do understand what your saying but I say that is not good for me the program did crash less with no plugins you have to have like no plugins for the program to not crash so yea. I am not trying to hate just speaking my opinion on things and hope i don't get blasted out for it. I love this software reminds me of radio zarar but better I just don't understand why a play list is so limited and everything is scheduled i do schedule radio jingles and stuff like that but I have a bunch of Christian rap i don't wana be dragging over each song ever 3 mins just to play music also look at this playlist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4LTIaM7M5E or just look at his tutorial its not a crime to have over 2000 songs that's a play list by the way aimp3 is amazing and can handle all my songs no joke winamp on the other and is a whole different ball game foobar2000 and aimp3 are the best for players. Furthermore, a music scheduler would be nice as well if we are only playing 100 songs at a time.
Ron
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djsoft said:
Did you know I try to make sure that don't happen my radio station? My radio all shuffled no joke, and I only add one of each song to the playlist not 2 of each so nothing gets double played but if you mean the same artist twice in a row I understand that but no big deal for listeners. never had that issue once and I have been doing radio online for 1/2 years before I found this great software?
When searching in a library, you don't have to drag with a mouse - you can use hot keys (Ins, Num+, Num-) to insert tracks to the playlist. Right-click on the search result list and you'll see what those hot keys mean.
The biggest problem with a big shuffled playlist is you'll get artists and albums repeated. Also you can't control other things like playing high-rated tracks more often. Anyway, it's pretty easy to make RB work with a big playlist with no lag - I think we'll implement it as well.
If RadioBOSS crashes with plugins you're using, then it means the problem is in the plugins. RadioBOSS with no plugins can run for unlimited time. On our test machines we have it running for 6-8 months. We restart it only to update it to a newer version. For stability purposes, the less plugins, the better.
The biggest problem with a big shuffled playlist is you'll get artists and albums repeated. Also you can't control other things like playing high-rated tracks more often. Anyway, it's pretty easy to make RB work with a big playlist with no lag - I think we'll implement it as well.
If RadioBOSS crashes with plugins you're using, then it means the problem is in the plugins. RadioBOSS with no plugins can run for unlimited time. On our test machines we have it running for 6-8 months. We restart it only to update it to a newer version. For stability purposes, the less plugins, the better.
It's not a radio. It's just Winamp playing songs and sending the stream to the network.WBGS-Founder said:
Ron
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Then this software is not a radio either just software to automate radio same as that video. Well, a radio well for main stream is FM if you wanan boil it down I was showing you a playlist example and yes this software and that software you see can all be used for automation so the only thing that differs is the features so yeah this is why we chose you. Furthermore, I don't see how people can rate songs in the software, I just take request and have people call in via skype not like we have an HTML rating system or something that can send and receive info so no need for that.
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pety
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You can create a library with all your music. Let's say about 100.000 tracks or 1.000.000 tracks.
Now:
1. Create Track Playlist Protection;
2. Use PGPro to create a lot of templates by Genre, Years, Comments etc., etc - no long than 12h.
3. Create Events in Scheduler to Automated Create, Load and Run your templates when you want and for how long time.
RB every time will generate fresh playlists and will play them as you want.
You have to be as creative as you want.
With a litle work at beginning you can make the radio station of your dreams.
Everything will be automated.
Now:
1. Create Track Playlist Protection;
2. Use PGPro to create a lot of templates by Genre, Years, Comments etc., etc - no long than 12h.
3. Create Events in Scheduler to Automated Create, Load and Run your templates when you want and for how long time.
RB every time will generate fresh playlists and will play them as you want.
You have to be as creative as you want.
With a litle work at beginning you can make the radio station of your dreams.
Everything will be automated.
Ron
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Well, this is one reason I chose this software but a pay list is still a play list i see what your saying make play list for every genre which I do the downfall is they have a lot of music in them lol and yes I do use the scheduler its awesome I am still learning about this software so yeah. Also if I chose not to play same artist for hour or what ever then this also fixes my issue I think we should have this option on the play list. Furthermore, there is still lag on the play list for me when I have one hour worth tracks no difference really ill do a video to prove that as well. I just noticed if i do that when talking my voice crackles and I go robotic sounding like I know its not my pc.
Adding this option to the playlist is not a very good idea for various reasons (at least you need to build exclude-list for jingles, commercials and IDs; also it will cause a lot of questions why playlist is 'skipping tracks'). If you need no-repeat rules then you should use Playlist Generator - it gives a lot of control on playlist format and the result is more predictable.WBGS-Founder said:
It runs OK with playlists of about 2000-5000 songs. Very few people need larger playlists so we don't bother testing the software under those circumstances.WBGS-Founder said:
For 'crackles' issue, you can create another topic with more information.
