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Title: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 17, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
What's new
Ad Scheduler
Music Library
Playlist Generator
Track Tool
Fixes and minor improvements
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Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Steffen Schultz on September 17, 2018, 11:56:53 AM
  • Accessible VST plugin configuration when screen reader mode is enabled

Thank you, works great. Can you add an option to select built-in plugin presets such as the normal/smooth/loud options in JB Broadcast? This would be helpful as a starting point for parameter modifications.

Steffen
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on September 17, 2018, 12:02:46 PM
This is useless (for us):
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Powergold on September 17, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on September 17, 2018, 12:49:02 PM
We are waiting for years to schedule an event like this, in one way:
- 12:15, 14:15, 18:45, 20:35.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nrhhcSxY/Hours_and_variable_minutes.jpg;image)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Patrick De Bruyn on September 17, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
For German Users, Für Deutsche Nutzer
RadioBoss 5.8.0.0  BETA ist raus und steht zum testen frei wenn man Registrierter User ist und wenn die Update zeit nicht abgelaufen ist. kannst du folgenden dowloadlink nutzen.
Download
RadioBOSS 5.8 beta: http://dl.djsoft.net/radioboss_setup_5.8.0.0.exe (9/17/2018, 30Mb)

Wenn das obere nicht der fall ist dan besuche folgende Seite, dort kann man einen testkey beantragen der dan seine gültigheit hat bis 15 dezember.
https://www.djsoft.net/enu/beta.htm

https://www.facebook.com/groups/145260282901834/
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Michael G on September 17, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
Can't replicate but happened when new playlist was generated and loaded.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on September 17, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
Bug:

When you have more than one playlist player, if you set the second playlist player to 'active' while the current player is playing, the 'calculate start time > continuously update' option doesn't calculate correctly. Also, it has a few UI glitches.

Steps:
PLAYER 1: Play song
PLAYER 2: Right click, set active playlist

PLAYER 1 start time for the currently playing track will now begin increasing while the rest stay frozen. All of PLAYER 2's start times remain frozen until stop is pressed, then they begin counting again. Once play is pressed, the current playlist freezes its start time (as expected) but the alternate player has the first one counting upward while the rest remain frozen.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 17, 2018, 07:07:58 PM
Thank you for the update with Version 5.8 on the Hours djsoft. That is a welcome addition.
I must say I like Pety's idea on having the option of multiple minutes within the one hour too.

I think this should be technically possible.
Same principle as Hours, but just the ability to have individual hours with extra and different minutes within the hour.
Example: 11:17 and 12:15, 12.35, 12:55 and 13:16, 13:48 as
Hour [11]  Mins [17]
Hour [12]  Mins [15,35,55]
Hour [13]  Mins [16,48]
and so on...

Plus I would add it as a Third Option/Choice :

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9019)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on September 17, 2018, 07:13:28 PM
Bug:

When editing the cart, you can change the text color and background color. The example that comes up within the edit box will change the background color when it's changed in the settings, but the font color always stays black, even if a different color is chosen. If you click OK it does apply the selected color change correctly to the cart, so the functionality is there, but it is a bit confusing with the example / preview box not updating with the change.

P.S. love the feature, thanks!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 17, 2018, 10:53:37 PM
This is not new for the Beta 5.8 and was happening before the Beta came along.
I am bringing them to your attention to see if they can be solved.

(A) EVENTS
Do Not Action This Event When Playlist is Stopped

I have this option ticked in all my events, but still the events appear in the Playlist when stopped.
However should the "Wait Option" box be ticked, they will disappear from the Playlist altogether when the wait time is up.
BUT surely if we have "Do Not Action" ticked nothing should be appearing in the Playlist at all ?

(B) BUTTONS
Stop After This Track Button

I was surprised to find this is not a one time push button.
When I went to resume the Playlist, nothing happened as this button was still active.
Should it not be just a one time push button that ceases its function as the track playing finishes ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: jopara on September 18, 2018, 03:54:34 AM
I do not know if it will be radioboss error or bad configuration to connect with the database ...
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nicotrak on September 18, 2018, 08:46:51 AM
Great, a new Beta to test :-)
The feature list is nice, valuable new ones.
Waiting for the Beta license to test it
Thanks
Nico
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 18, 2018, 10:09:01 AM
Can you add an option to select built-in plugin presets such as the normal/smooth/loud options in JB Broadcast? This would be helpful as a starting point for parameter modifications.
There's no standard VST feature for selecting presets, so I don't think that would be possible.

We are waiting for years to schedule an event like this, in one way:
- 12:15, 14:15, 18:45, 20:35.
This is a good idea - I think the new feature can be extended to function this way :) See my reply to DJSTU (below) for some details and possible solution.

Can't replicate but happened when new playlist was generated and loaded.
Thank you, this appears to be a bug.

I think this should be technically possible.
Same principle as Hours, but just the ability to have individual hours with extra and different minutes within the hour.
It seems that the feature has some demand :) One of the possible solutions would be to limit the minutes to hours in the minutes list. Like this:
Code: [Select]
15, 12:25, 35The event will run in all selected hours at minutes 15 and 35. Except for hour 12, where it will run at 12:25.
Another way is to have a third option, in addition to "Hours" where multiple start times can be listed (this was actually planned for RB 5.9).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 18, 2018, 10:13:55 AM
When editing the cart, you can change the text color and background color. The example that comes up within the edit box will change the background color when it's changed in the settings, but the font color always stays black, even if a different color is chosen. If you click OK it does apply the selected color change correctly to the cart, so the functionality is there, but it is a bit confusing with the example / preview box not updating with the change.
The box should show the selected color - will be fixed in the next update, thank you.

Do Not Action This Event When Playlist is Stopped
I have this option ticked in all my events, but still the events appear in the Playlist when stopped.
Can you please specify how the playlist is stopped: did it end and stopped naturally, or you've hit the "stop" button? Only the latter case is considered as stopped playlist.

Stop After This Track Button
I was surprised to find this is not a one time push button.
When I went to resume the Playlist, nothing happened as this button was still active.
Should it not be just a one time push button that ceases its function as the track playing finishes ?
It can be one or multiple times - you can change the mode of operation by right-clicking the button :)

I do not know if it will be radioboss error or bad configuration to connect with the database ...
It appears to be a bug in RadioBOSS - please click the Details button and send the bug report, this way we'll see where the problem is.

Waiting for the Beta license to test it
The licenses are be sent within 48 hours of request (usually within 12 hours).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Steffen Schultz on September 18, 2018, 10:25:17 AM
There's no standard VST feature for selecting presets, so I don't think that would be possible.

Not in VST itself, but most host applications have the ability to select presets/programs. If a plugin doesn't provide one, the host simply shows a kind of dummy entry, e.g. "default".
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 18, 2018, 01:21:25 PM
Not in VST itself, but most host applications have the ability to select presets/programs. If a plugin doesn't provide one, the host simply shows a kind of dummy entry, e.g. "default".
Technically this is possible, I'll add it to future developments list.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 18, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
Hours with Variable Minutes
One of the possible solutions would be to limit the minutes to hours in the minutes list. Like this:
Code: [Select]
15, 12:25, 35
The event will run in all selected hours at minutes 15 and 35. Except for hour 12, where it will run at 12:25.
NO... this way would be too confusing and messy.
Fine for those that understand it, but not for those who don't.
Absolutely go for that planned Third Option in update 5.9
BUT... if this is just a temporary interim solution for 5.8, then I would go for it.
I think most people here would understand how to operate it.

Stop After This Track
It can be one or multiple times - you can change the mode of operation by right-clicking the button
Thank You...
Now that I know this feature, its doing what I want.

Events Being Inserted When Playlist is Stopped
Can you please specify how the playlist is stopped: did it end and stopped naturally, or you've hit the "stop" button? Only the latter case is considered as stopped playlist.
I think this is a Bug that has crept in.
It never used to happen.
"Do Not Action" used to stop inserts, I think this has crept in the latest updates.
Wait time removes it after the time is up.
Remove Previous Schedule from the Playlist does remove the previous same event if a new one arrives.

If I hit the STOP button the events are still inserted in the Playlist.
If I hit STOP AFTER THIS TRACK it still inserts events in the Playlist.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 18, 2018, 10:34:22 PM
Dmitry,
Congratulations for this new version. There are many exciting things to try ;D

Here one problem with MySQL
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 19, 2018, 01:46:32 AM
Good morning
That's when I open function "Clear cache" in the music library what happens, an error message.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 19, 2018, 02:02:04 AM
I see more photos in other posts but, in my version 5.8.0.0. Beta in the General menu of Preferences I find nothing on the SQL database why? Is it hidden somewhere that I don't see?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 19, 2018, 02:07:57 AM
Hi,
This Italian translation is not readable.
Also I see strange writings in the strip of info on the tracks
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 19, 2018, 02:12:49 AM
Queue Mode (Delete Played Tracks from the Playlist)
Deleting the played tracks feature is not working altho ticked.
I think this may be a Bug ?

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9036)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 19, 2018, 07:05:31 AM
NO... this way would be too confusing and messy.
Fine for those that understand it, but not for those who don't.
Absolutely go for that planned Third Option in update 5.9
BUT... if this is just a temporary interim solution for 5.8, then I would go for it.
I think most people here would understand how to operate it.
Yes, you may be right. We'll think of some other solution, may be implementing the multiple start times in this version, instead of 5.9.

I think this is a Bug that has crept in.
It never used to happen.
"Do Not Action" used to stop inserts, I think this has crept in the latest updates.
This is by design. The events will be inserted into the playlist but the playback will not be started.

Congratulations for this new version. There are many exciting things to try

Here one problem with MySQL
Thank you!
As for the error, you should not specify http:// in the hostname.

That's when I open function "Clear cache" in the music library what happens, an error message.
Thank you, this appears to be a bug.

I see more photos in other posts but, in my version 5.8.0.0. Beta in the General menu of Preferences I find nothing on the SQL database why? Is it hidden somewhere that I don't see?
MySQL is selected in the additional information storage type, you have "APEv2" currently selected there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 19, 2018, 07:07:06 AM
This Italian translation is not readable.
Also I see strange writings in the strip of info on the tracks
The "Tracks" will be fixed in the next update as well as Italian translation in this part.

Deleting the played tracks feature is not working altho ticked.
I think this may be a Bug ?
The feature is disabled if you have either Repeat Track or Repeat List enabled.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pelucon on September 19, 2018, 08:00:30 AM
 El Generacor de listas de reproduccion Pro no esta bien falta generador de categorias
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 19, 2018, 08:29:03 AM
Automatic network stream relaying while using playlist as a backup option ("relaystart URL" and "relaystop" scheduler commands)
I would like more information about this


Remote ads management: ads, playlists and events can be sent to a remote RadioBOSS installation

Very interesting. I also need information about this
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 19, 2018, 08:40:51 AM
In the case of using MySql, Playlist Gen Pro already generates the list without reading the file metadata? :D
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 19, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
Problem when trying to use MySql
Database error: Specified key was too long; max key length is 767 bytes (1071). See log for details (double click to open log).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 19, 2018, 09:49:25 AM
Quote from: djsoft on September 17, 2018, 12:38:47 PM
Automatic network stream relaying while using playlist as a backup option ("relaystart URL" and "relaystop" scheduler commands)
I would like more information about this
Take a short test and deactivating the Wi-Fi on the notebook always stays in "Replaying". The reproduction of the list never started.
Also I see that it does not differentiate the capital letters.
I wrote a url that had capital letters and was unable to reproduce.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 19, 2018, 10:24:53 AM
Tip:
In the music library these functions are very used.. Is it possible to put a square and be able to tick the operations, so that they can happen in sequence? It would be very useful and save you time.
As in photography
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 19, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
This Italian translation is not readable.
Also I see strange writings in the strip of info on the tracks
The "Tracks" will be fixed in the next update as well as Italian translation in this part.

I remind Dmitry that I am always available to the translation into Italian of the new parts of Radioboss, as I did before this task was entrusted to Mr. Gialli.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: workino on September 19, 2018, 10:38:16 AM
Hello,
i found a possible little bug in teaser count. If in the next tracks is present a jingle correctly is not played but instead to have the correct number of song in are present only (songs - jingle) so if you would like to have 4 song in teaser there will be no jingle or is need to add more track in teaser count.

Is possible to remove jingle from counting?

I hope is clear  ;D
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pelucon on September 19, 2018, 11:33:59 AM
Que hago desinstalo el MySq ??
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: João Domingos Lemos Marinho on September 19, 2018, 12:50:40 PM
Bug:

When editing the cart, you can change the text color and background color. The example that comes up within the edit box will change the background color when it's changed in the settings, but the font color always stays black, even if a different color is chosen. If you click OK it does apply the selected color change correctly to the cart, so the functionality is there, but it is a bit confusing with the example / preview box not updating with the change.

P.S. love the feature, thanks!
g
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 19, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
The jingles and time do not expire although it is marked that way, it ends up playing everything when it finishes what it is reproducing.
Actually in standby mode nothing works at the maximum wait time
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on September 19, 2018, 06:07:03 PM
Hello. When I saw that it was enabled to configure vst plugins in accesible mode, I was very grateful. I have some comments. When I get to the file explorer arrows, I'll move the card from the left to the right, but Jaws will not announce anything. NVDA neatly announces the cards. Also, on the FX card Jaws does not read the names of plugins added. Just say checkbox checked or not checked. It all depends on what plugin it is. NVDA neatly reads the names of plugins. I use the MBprocess vst plugin in RadioBoss. When i opened its configuration, either NVDA or Jaws did not read the slider names. Just tell me: Slider 50%. Just me in some places says: of slider 50%.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Esteban88 on September 19, 2018, 11:40:34 PM
Hello, first I want to thank for the beta version 5.8 and allow me to test.

At the moment I do not get stats with active streaming, it seems that happens when the dj manager mode is active in the server autodj.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Steffen Schultz on September 20, 2018, 02:57:29 AM
When i opened its configuration, either NVDA or Jaws did not read the slider names. Just tell me: Slider 50%. Just me in some places says: of slider 50%.
Confirmed. Even object navigation doesn't provide the correct slider labels. However you can use the flat review mode to get some slider names.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 20, 2018, 06:30:59 AM
 El Generacor de listas de reproduccion Pro no esta bien falta generador de categorias
Please write in English as this is English forum, please also provide more details on the problem.

Very interesting. I also need information about this
The details are available in the User Manual (click Help->Content), those features are described in the Operation section.

In the case of using MySql, Playlist Gen Pro already generates the list without reading the file metadata? :D
If you enabled tag caching, then it will read tags from the database, not from files (if the tag information ic cached).

Problem when trying to use MySql
Database error: Specified key was too long; max key length is 767 bytes (1071). See log for details (double click to open log).
RadioBOSS requires MySql 5.7+ or MariaDB 10.2+ older versions will not work.

Take a short test and deactivating the Wi-Fi on the notebook always stays in "Replaying". The reproduction of the list never started.
It will continue relaying for some time when there's still some audio in the buffer. After that it will switch to the playlist, if the stream is still unavailable.

Also I see that it does not differentiate the capital letters.
I wrote a url that had capital letters and was unable to reproduce.
This looks like a bug, thank you.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 20, 2018, 07:17:59 AM
In the music library these functions are very used.. Is it possible to put a square and be able to tick the operations, so that they can happen in sequence? It would be very useful and save you time.
Yes, this is a good idea - noted for the future versions.

I remind Dmitry that I am always available to the translation into Italian of the new parts of Radioboss, as I did before this task was entrusted to Mr. Gialli.
I don't recall the reason why this happened, perhaps it's an error on our side ans we lost your contact information in our records about who maintains the translation. If you have an interest in updating the translation, can you please send the translated files to support@djsoft.net (we'll include them in the next update)?
i found a possible little bug in teaser count. If in the next tracks is present a jingle correctly is not played but instead to have the correct number of song in are present only (songs - jingle) so if you would like to have 4 song in teaser there will be no jingle or is need to add more track in teaser count.
Currently teaser skips jingles and any other file types (this is controlled in the settings).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 20, 2018, 07:25:13 AM
The jingles and time do not expire although it is marked that way, it ends up playing everything when it finishes what it is reproducing.
Actually in standby mode nothing works at the maximum wait time
Thank for for the information, we'll check if that's a bug.

Hello. When I saw that it was enabled to configure vst plugins in accesible mode, I was very grateful. I have some comments. When I get to the file explorer arrows, I'll move the card from the left to the right, but Jaws will not announce anything. NVDA neatly announces the cards. Also, on the FX card Jaws does not read the names of plugins added. Just say checkbox checked or not checked. It all depends on what plugin it is. NVDA neatly reads the names of plugins. I use the MBprocess vst plugin in RadioBoss. When i opened its configuration, either NVDA or Jaws did not read the slider names. Just tell me: Slider 50%. Just me in some places says: of slider 50%.
We'll add text names for sliders, I'm sorry that this didn't work properly right away.  Thank you for the other accessibility related comments, we'll make improvements in other areas as well.

At the moment I do not get stats with active streaming, it seems that happens when the dj manager mode is active in the server autodj.
It shows an error message instead of listener count - this means it can't retrieve listener information, so the graph will be empty. It's likely that you need to configure the Statistic Relay (in the encoder settings) to make it read listener numbers. The exact configuration depends on the server/control panel you use.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 20, 2018, 07:49:19 AM
Quote from: Marco Nicolosi on September 19, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
I remind Dmitry that I am always available to the translation into Italian of the new parts of Radioboss, as I did before this task was entrusted to Mr. Gialli.
I don't recall the reason why this happened, perhaps it's an error on our side ans we lost your contact information in our records about who maintains the translation. If you have an interest in updating the translation, can you please send the translated files to support@djsoft.net (we'll include them in the next update)?

I will be very pleased to resume translations from English to English of Radioboss reason why I had had a license without expiration until version 5.7. In order to send the translation of the new parts in Italian, I need to know from you when the latest beta version will be ready before the final one. So that the final version has the translation of the new parts already inserted. I think this information you can give me in private right? Do you have my email? If not you send it with this post to support@djsoft.net so you can remember what we talked about.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on September 20, 2018, 08:12:24 AM
Bug:

When you have more than one playlist player, if you set the second playlist player to 'active' while the current player is playing, the 'calculate start time > continuously update' option doesn't calculate correctly. Also, it has a few UI glitches.

Steps:
PLAYER 1: Play song
PLAYER 2: Right click, set active playlist

PLAYER 1 start time for the currently playing track will now begin increasing while the rest stay frozen. All of PLAYER 2's start times remain frozen until stop is pressed, then they begin counting again. Once play is pressed, the current playlist freezes its start time (as expected) but the alternate player has the first one counting upward while the rest remain frozen.

Just wanted to re-supply in case it was missed
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 20, 2018, 08:22:58 AM
Hi, I want to notify another problem to be fixed, I believe it is a bug. Events with multiple minutes only perform the first markup, the others in spite of generating a warning do not play or are not posted to the list. Example program time to play in minute 05 and 10, only the first one works, any other after it does not.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 20, 2018, 08:34:23 AM
Here are some tips that can be implemented in this or next versions:
1-it would be important to be able to have this window with editable dimensions with sliding text, in order to read even the long names of the Temple.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 20, 2018, 08:40:17 AM
Here are some tips that can be implemented in this or next versions:

2-When you have a lot of events you have to scroll through the window to search for a particular event that repeats because it is programmed to different days and times for several days, here is a small search string that only visible the results can help to find them . Example in the picture
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 20, 2018, 08:48:47 AM
Here are some tips that can be implemented in this or next versions:

3-it is possible to close or open the groups of the Presets of Play Generator Pro As for the schedules, in order to simplify the scrolling and the search of a preset.
4-When you erase a preset, the return of the preset window if the window would resume the previous position instead, that always go back up to the top, it can accelerate the use.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 20, 2018, 09:56:31 AM
Hello Dmitry
Here's a first job for you
In the attached file there are some new parts of version 5.8 already translated into Italian, what I have not translated because I have to understand the function.
Many translations in Italian, are longer than English so you have to resize the spaces
Tested work
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 20, 2018, 02:53:26 PM
I will be very pleased to resume translations
Please drop an email to support@djsoft.net about it, we'll continue this discussion there.

Just wanted to re-supply in case it was missed
It was missed indeed, I'm sorry for that. This definitely looks like a bug - thanks for the detailed description!

Hi, I want to notify another problem to be fixed, I believe it is a bug. Events with multiple minutes only perform the first markup, the others in spite of generating a warning do not play or are not posted to the list. Example program time to play in minute 05 and 10, only the first one works, any other after it does not.
Do you mean the event only starts at 10:05 but does not start at 10:10?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: karnadolia on September 20, 2018, 03:57:41 PM
Good afternoon, I'm new here, I just want to say thank you !, for the opportunity to participate in the tests. There are several suggestions


1. I'm used to seeing the grid of broadcasting for an hour before my eyes, but information messages (news) that change once a day can not be determined by groups. It would not be bad in assignments under the days of the week to lay down the function of selecting an audio file, it will be convenient to distribute floating tasks to groups
2. In functions of "Voice Tech" add processing with any audio editors
3. Card Machine the ability to connect a MIDI controller
 
Errors have not seen, and the automation of the ether saves a lot of time, again Thank you! sorry for my English
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 20, 2018, 06:47:51 PM
Quote from: celso on Today at 08:22:58 AM
Hi, I want to notify another problem to be fixed, I believe it is a bug. Events with multiple minutes only perform the first markup, the others in spite of generating a warning do not play or are not posted to the list. Example program time to play in minute 05 and 10, only the first one works, any other after it does not.
Do you mean the event only starts at 10:05 but does not start at 10:10?

Exactly, it does not start any event in the second minute mark onwards, the curious thing is that the program warns you more does not launch in the list or plays.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 20, 2018, 06:49:56 PM
Do not Insert Event When Playlist is Stopped
The jingles and time do not expire although it is marked that way, it ends up playing everything when it finishes what it is reproducing.
Actually in standby mode nothing works at the maximum wait time

I am not experiencing what Celso is experiencing with Events going into the Playlist and not removing themselves. I can imagine that if Celso uses auto "Start" at some point, then having playlist ending up llike that playing unwanted stuff could be annoying.

This Playlist of mine has been stopped all night, and you will notice the dozens of Events that would have gone in during that time have been subsequently removed with only the latest current one remaining. All the events have a "Wait Time" loaded.
(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9065)
So I suspect its not a Bug myself, since I should be having the same problem as Celso has.

I can live with these events being inserted, but actually my preference would be for the "Do Not Insert" to mean just that.
Was there a rationale behind this working the way it does now ? I ask because because older versions wouldn't insert anything whilst stopped. So has someone asked for it to be like this ?

Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 20, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
Quote from: celso on September 19, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
The jingles and time do not expire although it is marked that way, it ends up playing everything when it finishes what it is reproducing.
Actually in standby mode nothing works at the maximum wait time

I am not experiencing what Celso is experiencing with Events going into the Playlist and not removing themselves. I can imagine that if Celso uses auto "Start" at some point, then having playlist ending up llike that playing unwanted stuff could be annoying.

This Playlist of mine has been stopped all night, and you will notice the dozens of Events that would have gone in during that time have been subsequently removed with only the latest current one remaining. All the events have a "Wait Time" loaded.



I did not say that the events are not released, said they are released but do not expire when they are on hold for maximum time. An example, time announcement, should expire in 7 minutes if it does not play within that time, should delete it from the list. This does not happen, so if I have a file bigger than 10 minutes, it accumulates another time announcement, when it reads what it is reproducing, it speaks the two time announcement. so accumulates and only leaves the list when it reuses but does not respect the maximum time established.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 20, 2018, 07:33:17 PM
Broadcast Metadata
I am wanting to take advantage of the new option in "General/Advanced Configuration"
in regard to "Text - NowPlaying text When Stopped"
BUT the problem with this is that Broadcast Metadata is taking the text from (presumably) the Playlist artist/filename and ignoring NowPlaying.txt.
Is it possible to add in an additional box for the metadata source :

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9067)

OR Alternatively

Add an extra line into the Advanced Configuration specifically for Metadata :
Text - Metadata Text When Stopped

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9069)

Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 20, 2018, 07:49:34 PM
I did not say that the events are not released, said they are released but do not expire when they are on hold for maximum time. An example, time announcement, should expire in 7 minutes if it does not play within that time, should delete it from the list. This does not happen, so if I have a file bigger than 10 minutes, it accumulates another time announcement, when it reads what it is reproducing, it speaks the two time announcement. so accumulates and only leaves the list when it reuses but does not respect the maximum time established.


I now understand where you are coming from in regard to the problem you are having.

Have you got the box ticked "Remove previous schedule from the Playlist ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 20, 2018, 08:31:25 PM
Dmitry, while having support for MySQL is a great feature, any chance to add support for SQL Server in this beta?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 20, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
Some things with the new "Relay" function.
RB takes too long to detect that the transmission is cut off. About 5 seconds.
It would be good if, immediately after the transmission, the reproduction begins in the main player, without these silences that happen now.

Also I think it would be a good idea if RB is in "stop" and the reproduction starts when the "relay" is cut. In this way the transition would be "more natural" and not two clues that join anywhere. In other words, the main player should start a song from the beginning, at the moment the relay stops for some reason.


At the aesthetic level, a small transparency in the "relay" window would be nice. (So that you can see the level bars moving)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 20, 2018, 10:52:44 PM
Remote ads management: ads, playlists and events can be sent to a remote RadioBOSS installation
I have not tried it yet but I am reading the documentation and it is a great feature :D
If I export the audio tracks, where are they stored in the remote installation?

Also with this feature I got a question: Is there already an api command to upload files? and to download?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 20, 2018, 11:04:17 PM
Are there more features in this Beta? for example I can expect improvements in weather announcements. I think we had talked about adding sources under subscription.
But with the program being able to read the humidity and temperature of a txt with data separated by comma would be more than enough. (Provided by several programs like Cumulus that get that data from a hardware)

Another thing I expected for this beta is categories for music.
I started my own development for this, but I would like to know what the plans are on the side of RadioBOSS.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 20, 2018, 11:21:05 PM
Using mysql: what happens if I make an API command to modify the metadata or the rating of a song that has not yet been played, so it is not in the DB. Is it inserted in the database?

in the case of the readtag command, if it is in the DB, the file brings the metadata from there, otherwise the file?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: ลูกหมูยามเช้า อู๊ดๆ on September 21, 2018, 03:23:05 AM

The program is very good. I just opened the song. No problem, thanks for the program.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on September 21, 2018, 03:48:07 AM
BMP progress bar must be over the search button?

(https://i.postimg.cc/mgzd6Vdm/BMP.jpg)
Title: SECURITY PERMISSIONS
Post by: pety on September 21, 2018, 04:04:43 AM
Regular user DO NOT MUST HAVE access to setting and converting in Music Library -> Tools.
For example an user can convert all tracks from APE to SQLITE or set mix point. That is not good at all.


I think is not good to stop access to entire Music Library, becouse there are operations which an operator must do. Can you add in Users Permissions from Music only:
This enumerated list present risks.
BUT all the others are necessary for regular work.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 21, 2018, 07:10:01 AM
I now understand where you are coming from in regard to the problem you are having.

Have you got the box ticked "Remove previous schedule from the Playlist ?


The option to remove the previous schedule works if checked. However I am talking about an option in the standby mode where it expires for maximum time and the action is chosen between play or delete from the list at the end of the maximum time. See on the pictures!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 21, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
1. I'm used to seeing the grid of broadcasting for an hour before my eyes, but information messages (news) that change once a day can not be determined by groups. It would not be bad in assignments under the days of the week to lay down the function of selecting an audio file, it will be convenient to distribute floating tasks to groups
We may be adding a grid overview in the future, as it's being asked from time to time. Currently you can sort the events by the Run In column, in this case you will see the events in order they are supposed to start.

2. In functions of "Voice Tech" add processing with any audio editors
You can open the saved voice tracks with any audio editor. They are saved in WAV so I think any audio editor can handle that.

3. Card Machine the ability to connect a MIDI controller
We'll consider adding this in the future, thank you for the suggestion!

Here are some tips that can be implemented in this or next versions:
1-it would be important to be able to have this window with editable dimensions with sliding text, in order to read even the long names of the Temple.
This is a good change actually - will be implemented in the next update.

2-When you have a lot of events you have to scroll through the window to search for a particular event that repeats because it is programmed to different days and times for several days, here is a small search string that only visible the results can help to find them . Example in the picture
I think this will be included together with some other improvement we plan for the future - separate scheduler window and/or scheduler window in additional zones. This will allow to have more screen space for the whole thing.

3-it is possible to close or open the groups of the Presets of Play Generator Pro As for the schedules, in order to simplify the scrolling and the search of a preset.
Currently it's not possible. I see on your screenshot that there are lots of presets... But I'm not sure collapsible groups will simplify things, as searching for some preset can become even more difficult. As for the other request, I think it would be possible to preserve scroll position.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 21, 2018, 09:56:49 AM
Exactly, it does not start any event in the second minute mark onwards, the curious thing is that the program warns you more does not launch in the list or plays.
This does not reproduce here. Can you please make a screenshot of RB window just after it was supposed to launch the event but it didn't?

I can live with these events being inserted, but actually my preference would be for the "Do Not Insert" to mean just that.
Was there a rationale behind this working the way it does now ? I ask because because older versions wouldn't insert anything whilst stopped. So has someone asked for it to be like this ?
This was not changed for some time. And I don't recall that it was different. I'll see if the behavior can be changed, or there is some reason for it to be like this (this will take some time to look up in the docs).
I think it would be logical to not do anything, as the option says "Do not action event when the playlist is stopped" -  the event should be skipped completely if the playlist is stopped.

I did not say that the events are not released, said they are released but do not expire when they are on hold for maximum time. An example, time announcement, should expire in 7 minutes if it does not play within that time, should delete it from the list. This does not happen, so if I have a file bigger than 10 minutes, it accumulates another time announcement, when it reads what it is reproducing, it speaks the two time announcement. so accumulates and only leaves the list when it reuses but does not respect the maximum time established.
This does not reproduce here, the expired events are properly removed. Can you please provide a time announcement event screenshot so that we try it with your settings?

I am wanting to take advantage of the new option in "General/Advanced Configuration"
in regard to "Text - NowPlaying text When Stopped"
BUT the problem with this is that Broadcast Metadata is taking the text from (presumably) the Playlist artist/filename and ignoring NowPlaying.txt.
I think that can be extended, so it will send the same text to the server.

Dmitry, while having support for MySQL is a great feature, any chance to add support for SQL Server in this beta?
I don't think so as adding a new database is a lot of work, I'm sorry. Also SQL Server is not that popular. Is there any reason to prefer SQL Server over MySQL/MariaDB?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 21, 2018, 10:07:06 AM
RB takes too long to detect that the transmission is cut off. About 5 seconds.
It would be good if, immediately after the transmission, the reproduction begins in the main player, without these silences that happen now.
I'll see if that can be improved, thank you for the suggestion.

Also I think it would be a good idea if RB is in "stop" and the reproduction starts when the "relay" is cut. In this way the transition would be "more natural" and not two clues that join anywhere. In other words, the main player should start a song from the beginning, at the moment the relay stops for some reason.
Yes, this would be possible, e.g. it can pause the current track when relay starts, and move on to the next track when it stops. This should be done soon.

I have not tried it yet but I am reading the documentation and it is a great feature
If I export the audio tracks, where are they stored in the remote installation?
The tracks are stored in the Temp folder in the settings.

Also with this feature I got a question: Is there already an api command to upload files? and to download?
Currently there are no API commands for this.

for example I can expect improvements in weather announcements. I think we had talked about adding sources under subscription.
Yes, this is still planned, but I'm not sure if this will be added in this version.

Another thing I expected for this beta is categories for music.
I started my own development for this, but I would like to know what the plans are on the side of RadioBOSS.
There are plans for categories, the problem is that there are lots of other plans, and some required internal changes to RadioBOSS to allow implementing this feature.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 21, 2018, 10:11:10 AM
Using mysql: what happens if I make an API command to modify the metadata or the rating of a song that has not yet been played, so it is not in the DB. Is it inserted in the database?
It will add a new record to the DB.

in the case of the readtag command, if it is in the DB, the file brings the metadata from there, otherwise the file?
If there's no cached entry in the database, then it will read from the file directly.

BMP progress bar must be over the search button?
Yes - will be fixed.

Regular user DO NOT MUST HAVE access to setting and converting in Music Library -> Tools.
For example an user can convert all tracks from APE to SQLITE or set mix point. That is not good at all.
Currently it's not possible to control areas of Music Library. It's only possible to disable the Music Library completely for a user.

However I am talking about an option in the standby mode where it expires for maximum time and the action is chosen between play or delete from the list at the end of the maximum time. See on the pictures!
So, you have "Delete" action, but the event is not being removed from the playlist after 7 minutes have passed?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on September 21, 2018, 11:00:28 AM
Hi there,

some improvements to the beta.

Track Tool:
1. Can't drag the black position marker any more
2. When setting Hook in/out or other things it doesn't set where I click... approx 1 second later
3. The confirmation prompt is hardly annoying me... wish to disable it.
4. By skipping to the next track over "Next"-button the position marker isn't at the start.
5. Track Tool doesn't save correct information (no hook points, inccorect file type) - Espacially in case when opening the Track Tool right under a music file with file type set.

Also I am missing that feature: Hook Playlist column (see https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,5206.0.html)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on September 21, 2018, 11:26:42 AM
Currently it's not possible to control areas of Music Library. It's only possible to disable the Music Library completely for a user.
I know, Dmitriy, that's why I pointed it out. Is it possible in the future to control areas of Music library?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 21, 2018, 01:49:20 PM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.1 beta

Changes:

Download: http://dl.djsoft.net/radioboss_setup_5.8.0.1.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: WNAQ db on September 21, 2018, 01:52:48 PM
So far 5.8 is performing well.

One new addition is: Added ability to mute main playlist playback when prelisten is used.

Would it possible to do the same thing for Seque Editor and Seque Editor 3?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Patrick De Bruyn on September 21, 2018, 02:43:19 PM
Iff a song is playeing an i select the pause button the music stops, that is ok but wenn i push the play button egain the player works but there is no music, so i have to pusch the play button again.
The problem is that the song starts at the beginning
I think Pause should be pause and not start at the beginning
Sorry for bad english
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 21, 2018, 05:37:21 PM
Possibly a Bug djsoft.
I downloaded some 8 videos and converted them into MP3.
For some reason about 50% of them come up in ORANGE font instead of BLACK. Just why RB is picking on some files, I do not know. Because of the file nature, I am just leaving the file name for the file to appear for TITLE purposes in the Playlist.
If I try to change File Type TRACK TOOL comes up with an "empty square" where it should say MUSIC (I'm presuming).
When I click on a regular Music File in TRACK TOOL I notice File Type is also Blank. Is this default, or purely because the word MUSIC isn't there to appear ?
BUT should I change the File Type to say "Network Stream" then it works and changes the font to Green.

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9087)

If I use Right Mouse Click in Playlist - Tools/Set File Type/Music, it will come up with an option showing MUSIC.
If I choose MUSIC (where at least the name MUSIC appears)  in Tools/Set File Type, it doesn't change the file type at all (unless this change is invisible).
But even if invisible its not changing the font colour, so my guess is that its just ignoring the File Type change totally.

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9089)

Using either method (Blank Box in Track Tool and Music in Tools/Set File Type) neither method shows any visible/changed file type.

BUT what will change the font colour immediately to Black is whilst in TRACK TOOL and entering an artist name in, save, and then the file just automatically changes to BLACK font.

PS
I have since had play around with changing colours for the File Types.
The only File Type now that remains ORANGE is for NEWS
Therefore the ORANGE font the Music File is picking up is somehow associating itself with NEWS.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 21, 2018, 06:50:54 PM
The option to remove the previous schedule works if checked. However I am talking about an option in the standby mode where it expires for maximum time and the action is chosen between play or delete from the list at the end of the maximum time. See on the pictures!

I have experimented with big files and small files together and also encountering the exact same problem as you Celso.
When you choose WAITING OPTIONS its not ACTIONing either Delete or Play.
It will remove the Previous Schedule from the Playlist if that box is ticked.

PS
later addition:
Like Celso I am also using Win 7 (Celso mentions this in a later post further down).

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9100)


HOURS
Also djsoft, I can confirm that the extra Hour entries are not working. Only the first of the nominated minutes is working.
What is happening is that the event is working in the sense of going through all the motions of
doing what it should, but at the very end just doesn't make the insert into the Playlist.
(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9103)


Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 21, 2018, 10:14:02 PM
On the File type bed function, it would not be more optimal if two consecutive tracks belong to the same type of file, the reproduction of the bed continues, (instead of starting from the beginning again as before).
Maybe it's something difficult to implement but the result would be much more professional  :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 21, 2018, 11:44:13 PM
This was not changed for some time. And I don't recall that it was different. I'll see if the behavior can be changed, or there is some reason for it to be like this (this will take some time to look up in the docs).
I think it would be logical to not do anything, as the option says "Do not action event when the playlist is stopped" -  the event should be skipped completely if the playlist is stopped.

Yes, this was how it worked several years ago. Maybe even longer. Whilst stopped, nothing was inserted.
And most likely my fault I haven't mentioned it before yesterday, because when you are testing newer versions of RB, you are testing them 99% of the time PLAYING and not in STOPPED mode.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 22, 2018, 06:35:17 AM
Quote from: celso on September 21, 2018, 07:10:01 AM
The option to remove the previous schedule works if checked. However I am talking about an option in the standby mode where it expires for maximum time and the action is chosen between play or delete from the list at the end of the maximum time. See on the pictures!

I have experimented with big files and small files together and also encountering the same problem as you Celso.
BUT only on certain Events, not all of them.
SAY TIME was one of them but changing to "Remove Previous Schedule from the Playlist" seemed to cure it.
Suggest you try it and see what happens. I don't guarantee it will work, its just worth a try.


Also djsoft, I can confirm that the extra Hour entries are not working. Only the first one is.


 RadioBoss No 3 - 22Sep2018.jpg (118.6 kB, 489x268 - viewed 44 times.)

 RadioBoss No 4 - 22Sep2018.jpg (8.67 kB, 132x135 - viewed 68 times.)



Hello, I believe it must be a problem that is happening with windows 7 in both 64-bit and 32-bit versions, I tested both versions and the flaws are exactly the same. At the moment I do not have a computer with windows 10 or 8 to test, so I get here put the result. As for removing the previous events, there are no problems when you markup removes previous sheddule from the playlist. However the delete or play function when time expires, this is very useful at least in my case! I ask Dmitry to do a test with windows 7 64 and 32 bits.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Andreskr on September 23, 2018, 09:18:11 AM
Hello
I wanted to make a comment about the advertising programmer.
What is the possibility to add with the buttons "add" and "remove" the "replace" button. I say this because when an ad is scheduled and that announcement requires an audio change, you have to delete the ad completely and set it again to make the audio change. It would be nice if there was that button to replace audio.

Thank you and sorry for my English.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 23, 2018, 09:39:43 AM
Hello
I wanted to make a comment about the advertising programmer.
What is the possibility to add with the buttons "add" and "remove" the "replace" button. I say this because when an ad is scheduled and that announcement requires an audio change, you have to delete the ad completely and set it again to make the audio change. It would be nice if there was that button to replace audio.

Thank you and sorry for my English.


This is interesting, however this can be done at the moment by replacing the existing audio with another with the exact same name and works without problems.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 23, 2018, 10:27:16 AM
1. Can't drag the black position marker any more
I'm not sure it was possible in the past - but I;ll add it to the bug tracker just in case.

When setting Hook in/out or other things it doesn't set where I click... approx 1 second later
When you set the cursor somewhere, it shows you the current position. When you click the Set button for Hook In/Hook Out it will set this position for this point. It appears to work correctly here.

The confirmation prompt is hardly annoying me... wish to disable it.
Can you please specify which one?

By skipping to the next track over "Next"-button the position marker isn't at the start.
Yes, it appears to be a bug, thanks.

Track Tool doesn't save correct information (no hook points, inccorect file type) - Espacially in case when opening the Track Tool right under a music file with file type set.
Can you please provide more information about it?

Also I am missing that feature: Hook Playlist column
This is planned and could be added in this or next version.

I know, Dmitriy, that's why I pointed it out. Is it possible in the future to control areas of Music library?
Yes, scheduled for the future versions.

One new addition is: Added ability to mute main playlist playback when prelisten is used.

Would it possible to do the same thing for Seque Editor and Seque Editor 3?
Yes, I think that could be possible, thank you for the idea!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 23, 2018, 10:34:02 AM
Iff a song is playeing an i select the pause button the music stops, that is ok but wenn i push the play button egain the player works but there is no music, so i have to pusch the play button again.
The problem is that the song starts at the beginning
I think Pause should be pause and not start at the beginning
Sorry for bad english
This appears to be a bug. We'll also add additional configuration option to control what the Play button does when a track is paused - resume or start from the beginning.

For some reason about 50% of them come up in ORANGE font instead of BLACK.
The only reason for this is that the tracks are assigned to one of the file types. Please check your file types, the one that has the orange color. Perhaps is has an identifier that is also a part of the newly created MP3's so theay are assigned to this file type.

When I click on a regular Music File in TRACK TOOL I notice File Type is also Blank. Is this default, or purely because the word MUSIC isn't there to appear ?
Blank means the music, and this is the default. Please note that even if it's blank, it doesn't mean the file does no belong to a file type, as assigning a file type from Track Tool is only one way, there are also other ways - using identifiers and folder based file types.

If I choose MUSIC (where at least the name MUSIC appears)  in Tools/Set File Type, it doesn't change the file type at all (unless this change is invisible).
This only clears the file type association same as track tool does, but does not exclude other means how the file type is assigned.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 23, 2018, 11:13:51 AM
When you choose WAITING OPTIONS its not ACTIONing either Delete or Play.
It could be a bug, will be addressed in the next update.

On the File type bed function, it would not be more optimal if two consecutive tracks belong to the same type of file, the reproduction of the bed continues, (instead of starting from the beginning again as before).
Maybe it's something difficult to implement but the result would be much more professional 
Yes due to how it's implemented now it would be a lot of work to make it work the way you request - this is planned for the future versions, though.

Yes, this was how it worked several years ago. Maybe even longer. Whilst stopped, nothing was inserted.
This will be changed in the next update so the events will not launch when it's stopped.

Hello, I believe it must be a problem that is happening with windows 7 in both 64-bit and 32-bit versions, I tested both versions and the flaws are exactly the same. At the moment I do not have a computer with windows 10 or 8 to test, so I get here put the result.
Windows version and 32/64 bit does not matter, it works the same everywhere.

What is the possibility to add with the buttons "add" and "remove" the "replace" button. I say this because when an ad is scheduled and that announcement requires an audio change, you have to delete the ad completely and set it again to make the audio change. It would be nice if there was that button to replace audio.
The easiest way to replace the audio is to replace the audio file on the disk. The settings are stored in a separate file, so changing the audio will not affect the settings.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 23, 2018, 12:03:40 PM
I am working on a PC in which RB always performs streaming playback except the commercial part.
It has been decided that the pc will be freezed, but I need the commercials and ADS Scheduler settings to be saved (they will be in a partition that was not freezed).
For this purpose, this unit will be used as an ads scheduler work folder. The question is what happens with the .Ini where is the configuration of each commercial. Is it also stored in the chosen folder?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 23, 2018, 12:17:50 PM
I don't think so as adding a new database is a lot of work, I'm sorry. Also SQL Server is not that popular. Is there any reason to prefer SQL Server over MySQL/MariaDB?
The reason is clearly its own. I have developed a software using SQL Server to classify music, where I can assign categories, number of weeks in this category, current rating, rating on the release date, weeks that was number 1, mood, intency, date of registration, tags , etc.
My idea was to work on the same database as RadioBOSS, adding some tables to achieve greater integration.

I think that until we have something like that available on RadioBOSS, a lot of time goes by

For now my software ends up generating playlist based on established filters; These playlists are what Playlist Gen Pro uses
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 23, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Dmitry, I have the following doubt:
In the categories of Playlist Gen Pro
What happens when Start Position comes to the end, starts over again?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 23, 2018, 02:03:30 PM
The question is what happens with the .Ini where is the configuration of each commercial. Is it also stored in the chosen folder?
The settings for each advert are stored in .adsettings file, in the folder where the audio file is located.

My idea was to work on the same database as RadioBOSS, adding some tables to achieve greater integration.
This is a very special case, and I don't think SQL Server will benefit other users. You can use the two databases from the same software - storing RadioBOSS databases inside your database is not a good idea anyway - we may add new tables or rename existing tables and it may be conflicting with your tables.

I think that until we have something like that available on RadioBOSS, a lot of time goes by
It's not that bad :) I think we'll come to something pretty soon. It's just that there are lots of other plans.

In the categories of Playlist Gen Pro
What happens when Start Position comes to the end, starts over again?
Yes, it resets to 1 once it reaches the last track in the category.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 23, 2018, 08:01:26 PM
djsoft - In case you missed it, you didn't cover the problem I outlined with HOURS
as per my post - msg27243

https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?topic=5601.msg27243#msg27243


Thank you.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 24, 2018, 05:20:33 AM
djsoft - In case you missed it, you didn't cover the problem I outlined with HOURS
as per my post - msg27243
This was actually taken into account - the information was put to the bug tracker. I forgot to mention it here :) We'll see what's wrong there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Andreskr on September 24, 2018, 06:12:01 AM
The easiest way to replace the audio is to replace the audio file on the disk. The settings are stored in a separate file, so changing the audio will not affect the settings.

Yeah right. That can be done, but ... there are clients that change the ad for a few days and after that, the one that was previously sounds again. So changing the file from the disk may be, but it's more tedious than just replacing in the ad scheduler.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 24, 2018, 08:25:49 AM
Yeah right. That can be done, but ... there are clients that change the ad for a few days and after that, the one that was previously sounds again. So changing the file from the disk may be, but it's more tedious than just replacing in the ad scheduler.
I think you're right, this feature will be added in one of the next updates.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 25, 2018, 06:02:47 AM
I will be very pleased to resume translations
Please drop an email to support@djsoft.net about it, we'll continue this discussion there.

Hello Dmitry
I wrote you, already for some time an email for this topic, you received?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 25, 2018, 06:12:26 AM
Hello,
If I try to install on my PC this version radioboss_setup_ 5.8.0.0. exe no problem if I try to install the updated beta version radioboss_setup_ 5.8.0.1. exe I get an error, which I put in the picture below. Does not find a library and crashes.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 26, 2018, 07:48:02 AM
Currently you can sort the events by the Run In column, in this case you will see the events in order they are supposed to start.


Hi, I would like to suggest that the settings for show groups are stored the way they were last marked, because when we restart Radioboss it comes back with this always checked box. Congratulations on having inserted the option to show groups, really very useful mainly to edit when there are many events, which usually happens on a radio.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 26, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Hello,
If I try to install on my PC this version radioboss_setup_ 5.8.0.0. exe no problem if I try to install the updated beta version radioboss_setup_ 5.8.0.1. exe I get an error, which I put in the picture below. Does not find a library and crashes.
Please try reinstalling it, the error message says the "bassenc.dll" file is missing, but as I checked, it's properly installed by 5.8.0.1 installer.

Hi, I would like to suggest that the settings for show groups are stored the way they were last marked, because when we restart Radioboss it comes back with this always checked box. Congratulations on having inserted the option to show groups, really very useful mainly to edit when there are many events, which usually happens on a radio.
You're welcome! The "show groups" option state will be preserved between restarts - in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 26, 2018, 10:39:53 AM
Hello,
If I try to install on my PC this version radioboss_setup_ 5.8.0.0. exe no problem if I try to install the updated beta version radioboss_setup_ 5.8.0.1. exe I get an error, which I put in the picture below. Does not find a library and crashes.
Please try reinstalling it, the error message says the "bassenc.dll" file is missing, but as I checked, it's properly installed by 5.8.0.1 installer.

I tried again to install Radioboss 5.0.8.1 Unfortunately the installation failed, only manually copying the library "bassenc.dll" in the folder from the previous version I managed to launch the program. Hopefully in later versions this problem will reoccur.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 26, 2018, 10:44:59 AM
I will be very pleased to resume translations
Please drop an email to support@djsoft.net about it, we'll continue this discussion there.

Hello Dmitry
I wrote you, already for some time an email for this topic, you received?

Dmitry
You received my reply that I sent you to this Topic of yours [qry-Ebqev-965], because to contribute is important your answer. Would you need a more direct email where to send even the translated files is available?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 26, 2018, 12:15:25 PM
Proposal for a change Playlist Generator Pro :
To ensure that a presentation Jingle is always at the beginning of the playlist would be interesting this option:
Intro: Adds only to the beginning of the playlist
So the beginning and end of a program the initials are guaranteed in that position.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 27, 2018, 03:46:24 AM
I tried again to install Radioboss 5.0.8.1 Unfortunately the installation failed
We can't reproduce it here, I'm not sure what could be wrong... It could be your antivirus software that prevents from the file being installed. But there's nothing we can do as the installer works properly.

To ensure that a presentation Jingle is always at the beginning of the playlist would be interesting this option
This is already possible, just make sure to place a category at the beginning of the rotation. If you need it to appear only once at the beginning, then also check the "Use this category only once" option.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 28, 2018, 08:35:22 AM
We can't reproduce it here, I'm not sure what could be wrong... It could be your antivirus software that prevents from the file being installed. But there's nothing we can do as the installer works properly.

Ok, as I wrote, in the version 5.8.0.0 no problem, now I check the next update of the beta if the problem reoccurs again.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 28, 2018, 09:13:51 AM
I tried again to install Radioboss 5.0.8.1 Unfortunately the installation failed
We can't reproduce it here, I'm not sure what could be wrong... It could be your antivirus software that prevents from the file being installed. But there's nothing we can do as the installer works properly.

To ensure that a presentation Jingle is always at the beginning of the playlist would be interesting this option
This is already possible, just make sure to place a category at the beginning of the rotation. If you need it to appear only once at the beginning, then also check the "Use this category only once" option.

I wrote this because if in a schedule we activate the option to repeat, for example, every 30 minutes the same happens that it is inserted between the jingle that presents the program and the first block, this is a little pleasant... listening. With this option enabled you can perhaps avoid this situation.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 28, 2018, 01:28:35 PM
I wrote this because if in a schedule we activate the option to repeat, for example, every 30 minutes the same happens that it is inserted between the jingle that presents the program and the first block, this is a little pleasant... listening. With this option enabled you can perhaps avoid this situation.
I'm not sure if I understand - the original request was about having a jingle category at the top of the generated playlist, and this is already possible.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 28, 2018, 01:28:46 PM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.2 beta

Changes

Download: http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.2.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 03:27:34 PM
Added ability to mute main playlist playback when prelisten is used
I do not like at all the way in which this is implemented. A simple accidental click can leave the station silent.

It would not be better if it is hidden, and only for people who have a second sound board enabled for monitoring, will this option be visible?

So in only silence the monitoring, but not the main output.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Problem in the title of the window
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
This option is very dangerous that is so accessible.
What is the reason? I think it's not something that should be accessed frequently
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 04:52:42 PM
If a track is played without inserting it in a database, is that date stored as the registration date in the DB?
The same happens if asgino modified the rating of the track from the API?(And never played)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 04:54:15 PM
What happens if I replace a file, the playcount will go back to zero? It happens a lot with recorded radio programs which are replaced daily.

With the duration of the track will there be a problem?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 04:56:10 PM
What is the best way to make a BackUp in MySql?
Now the BD is as important as the files  ;)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 28, 2018, 05:16:25 PM
Custom fields like filter in AutoIntro can be expected within this beta? I do not think it's too much work to add it  :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.2 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 28, 2018, 05:44:21 PM
Changes
        Nowplaying text when stopped now also sent to streaming servers

Thank you for the update djsoft. The changes made are proving very useful.

Now in regard to above quote.
I am not clear on HOW the nowplaying.txt should be getting to the Broadcast Metadata.
In my tests today the Server is just showing the song last played from the Playlist.
Nowplaying.txt is being updated with the information I want, so that is working as it should, BUT its not moving thru to the server.

PS
RadioCaster is working fine because its picking up the information from the NowPlaying.txt file.
Its the inbuilt Broadcaster in RadioBoss that I cannot get to work.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.2 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 28, 2018, 05:55:22 PM
Possible Bug
When I start RadioBoss the Playlist just automatically starts playing, which is not what I want. I want it to remain stationary until I am ready.

I haven't ticked any of the settings in "When Program Started" under Settings/General to enable it to start.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 28, 2018, 07:46:20 PM
MetaData - Next Song
Via Nowplaying.txt
Would it be possible to enable a GAP of some sort to be inserted between two tracks in Metadata, and words inserted of my choice (such as ......NEXT TRACK:, ......COMING UP NEXT:, ......NEXT TO PLAY:, ......COMING UP SOON, .....PLAYING NEXT: etc) with whatever these are called, Brackets??....[  ]
 in order to make the distinction between the current playing track and the next track.
At the moment it just looks like one continuous line with nothing to show the separation.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on September 29, 2018, 03:23:49 AM
This option is very dangerous that is so accessible.
What is the reason? I think it's not something that should be accessed frequently
Indeed !!!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on September 29, 2018, 03:39:37 AM
Music level fades not accurately in Mic settings.
Fades are too abrupt even I have 1.4. At 2.4 is abrupt too.
Certainly it is a bug.


When music volume is low when activate mic volume decreases under 21 db (my settings).
So, here it is something wrong
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 29, 2018, 06:20:32 AM
I do not like at all the way in which this is implemented. A simple accidental click can leave the station silent.
It only mutes the sound card playback - the streaming is not affected. We can add this to the "Control" section in the settings, to disable the option.
The purpose of this option is actually for people who have only one sound card and stream to the net. This allows to hear own broadcast and prelisten tracks on the same card, muting the main playback.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 29, 2018, 06:27:35 AM
Problem in the title of the window
Thanks - looks like this window loads incorrect translation.

This option is very dangerous that is so accessible.
What is the reason? I think it's not something that should be accessed frequently
It doesn't do much - it only clears the cache, but no information is actually lost as the cache will be filled again when the track info is read from the tracks. It also has confirmation box.

What happens if I replace a file, the playcount will go back to zero? It happens a lot with recorded radio programs which are replaced daily.

With the duration of the track will there be a problem?
The playcount will not reset, as it's being counted based on file name (if you use database to store additional information). The cache will be invalidated, as RadioBOSS will detect the file is changed - so it will re-read the tags and duration.

What is the best way to make a BackUp in MySql?
Now the BD is as important as the files  ;)
Currently RadioBOSS does not offer such a feature. You can use the regular MySQL means to making a backup: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/backup-methods.html

Custom fields like filter in AutoIntro can be expected within this beta? I do not think it's too much work to add it  :)
It's early to tell, but I think it would be possible in this beta.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 29, 2018, 06:44:58 AM
I am not clear on HOW the nowplaying.txt should be getting to the Broadcast Metadata.
In my tests today the Server is just showing the song last played from the Playlist.
Nowplaying.txt is being updated with the information I want, so that is working as it should, BUT its not moving thru to the server.
Please make sure you have the "Produce silent output" option enabled in Settings->Playback. The title information is sent to the server along with audio data, so producing silence is required to perform title update on the server.

When I start RadioBoss the Playlist just automatically starts playing, which is not what I want. I want it to remain stationary until I am ready.
This shouldn't be happening. Does it happen always or it was a one time thing? If it happens again, please make a screenshot of the RB window.

Via Nowplaying.txt
Would it be possible to enable a GAP of some sort to be inserted between two tracks in Metadata, and words inserted of my choice (such as ......NEXT TRACK:, ......COMING UP NEXT:, ......NEXT TO PLAY:, ......COMING UP SOON, .....PLAYING NEXT: etc) with whatever these are called, Brackets??....[  ]
In the future there will be a template for the nowplaying file and this will be possible.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 29, 2018, 06:45:33 AM
Music level fades not accurately in Mic settings.
Fades are too abrupt even I have 1.4. At 2.4 is abrupt too.
Certainly it is a bug.
Can you please provide more information on this? Do you mean it does not respect the duration setting and there's no fade?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 29, 2018, 08:05:41 AM
 :D D Hello, Now the events in maximum standby mode are working correctly in version 5.8.0.2, as well as the function of multiple minutes, a note to all is that the minutes should be marked this way 05,10,15. group function is also kept checked or unchecked by default just saving in profile. Congratulations Dmitry.

http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.2.exe?_ga=2.34574817.1792822155.1538224716-2100037454.1501155920
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 29, 2018, 08:17:35 AM
It doesn't do much - it only clears the cache, but no information is actually lost as the cache will be filled again when the track info is read from the tracks. It also has confirmation box.
What happens if the metadata were edited, or the intro of a song? this will be lost?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 29, 2018, 09:52:07 AM
There are several problems in TrackTool.
I was testing Mark the intro on this track.
Sometimes the waveform does not match the beginning of the track. (The waveform was silent, but the reproduction was more advanced)

Steps to reproduce the problem:
-Click on the play button, move with the mouse the reproduction to the part that is attached in the image.
If you click several times, the reproduction starts from the correct part.
The pre-listening buttons for the points also have this problem

Song: http://appgim.eshost.com.ar/test.mp3

With the attached track, set the starting point at 0.90 and 0.70 and make a preview of both points.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 29, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
Please make sure you have the "Produce silent output" option enabled in Settings->Playback. The title information is sent to the server along with audio data, so producing silence is required to perform title update on the server.

That option was already enabled, so the solution must be elsewhere. The metadata (for the inbuilt Broadcast) seems to be coming from the Playlist and not from NowPlaying.txt.

This shouldn't be happening. Does it happen always or it was a one time thing? If it happens again, please make a screenshot of the RB window.

It's happened a number of times. Later on today I will restart RB and take a screen shot.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on September 29, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
This shouldn't be happening. Does it happen always or it was a one time thing? If it happens again, please make a screenshot of the RB window.

I have found the cause of the Playback starting. Its being activated by Broadcast.

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9156)

Now when the Broadcast option says "Start Playback after having connected to a Server" I took this to mean "Start STREAMING after having connected to a Server".
As in streaming silence if there was no sound present and not waiting until the Playlist started. In fact I think it automatically does this anyway as default ?
Having Broadcast ON and also actively streaming are two different things, or so I thought.

However as the Log shows it did in fact start Playback of the Playlist.
My feeling is this is not needed here as it over-rules the choices in Settings General and just causes confusion.
Others might have a different view on this, and have good reasons as to why it exists.
If the feeling of the group is that it should remain, maybe a better place is to have it listed is under Settings/General/When Program Starts. That way the Start choices are all together and certainly a lot more clearer.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 30, 2018, 09:42:04 AM
In tracktool now you can not play beyond the end point of a song. This is on purpose?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 30, 2018, 09:43:20 AM
Dmitry,
I have problems with a set of songs. (It is not imported to the DB)
I suppose it can be a problem with the file name.

Adelantos\2014\Mayo\LMQSV #11 - Mayo 2014 - La Música Que Se Viene\37- On A Roll - Icona Pop - LMQSV#11.mp3

another example with problems
\Eros Ramazzotti - Дискография\Eros Ramazzotti - Lo mejor en español\CD 1\05 - Nuestra vida.mp3
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 30, 2018, 09:47:53 AM
I think I forget these post :)

If a track is played without inserting it in a database, is that date stored as the registration date in the DB?
The same happens if asgino modified the rating of the track from the API?(And never played)

Added ability to mute main playlist playback when prelisten is used
I do not like at all the way in which this is implemented. A simple accidental click can leave the station silent.

It would not be better if it is hidden, and only for people who have a second sound board enabled for monitoring, will this option be visible?

So in only silence the monitoring, but not the main output.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on September 30, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
I would like to raise the question of probability on the tabs again, if it is possible to add in this version would be very useful, since the way it is is very loaded since it is not intended to insert a separator for each commercial as well as that it has protection of repetition .
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on September 30, 2018, 12:37:34 PM
I wrote this because if in a schedule we activate the option to repeat, for example, every 30 minutes the same happens that it is inserted between the jingle that presents the program and the first block, this is a little pleasant... listening. With this option enabled you can perhaps avoid this situation.
I'm not sure if I understand - the original request was about having a jingle category at the top of the generated playlist, and this is already possible.

I try to explain better with a sequence of photos screenshot.
Photo 1-The playlist is almost over is going to load next event in the schedules
Photo 2-now uploaded a new event a program divided into 2 blocks the red one at the top is the jingle that presents the program.....
Photo 3-Now must enter a series of promo programs of the radio that repeats (as you see) every 30 minutes about.
Photo 4-How to see the insertion of the promo (green and brown stripes) cut out the jingle that shows the program that remains at the top. This is not nice the correct one should enter the promo after ending the song aired as in photo 5
Photo 5-I moved it by hand in the correct position where it should be the jingle that presents the program after the promos.
That option that I indicated in the post is intended to "create a single block of the program", leaving out all unwanted insertions.
I hope I was understood now in the explanation of what I meant.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: REGIANE ORTIGOSA on October 01, 2018, 07:18:49 AM
bom dia Senhores
gostaria da chave de linceca do radio boss58 se possivel deis de ja agradeco
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 01, 2018, 07:48:51 AM
a note to all is that the minutes should be marked this way 05,10,15
You can write "5" instead of "05", and you can use spaces between minutes if this is more convenient (e.g 5, 10, 15).

What happens if the metadata were edited, or the intro of a song? this will be lost?
This information is not stored in the cache, so clearing the cache does not affect it.

Sometimes the waveform does not match the beginning of the track. (The waveform was silent, but the reproduction was more advanced)
It could be a bug, thanks for the information!

That option was already enabled, so the solution must be elsewhere. The metadata (for the inbuilt Broadcast) seems to be coming from the Playlist and not from NowPlaying.txt.
Yes, the nowplaying file is write-only if RadioBOSS is concerned. The source is always the playlist (and any custom titles assigned for file types, etc). What server type do you use? We'll try to reproduce it here.

Now when the Broadcast option says "Start Playback after having connected to a Server" I took this to mean "Start STREAMING after having connected to a Server".
As in streaming silence if there was no sound present and not waiting until the Playlist started. In fact I think it automatically does this anyway as default ?
The purpose of this option is to start song payback when it's connected to the server, so the stream is started with a song just started (not mid-song). This is useful for radios with remote DJs - when the server allows the connection, RadioBOSS is connected and starts the song. In your case, if you need silence, then you should disable this option.

Others might have a different view on this, and have good reasons as to why it exists.
If the feeling of the group is that it should remain, maybe a better place is to have it listed is under Settings/General/When Program Starts. That way the Start choices are all together and certainly a lot more clearer.
This is a good question, as "Startup" options are about RadioBOSS startup, when the software is launched, so it doesn't really fit there. Anyway, as this is the first time when this option brought confusion, and this option exists for 5 years at the least, I think we can safely leave it where it is :)

In tracktool now you can not play beyond the end point of a song. This is on purpose?
Yes, this is how it should be - this allows testing how End mark works with other marks.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 01, 2018, 07:59:58 AM
I have problems with a set of songs. (It is not imported to the DB)
I suppose it can be a problem with the file name.
Are there any error messages? The file names look OK and shouldn't be a problem...

I think I forget these post
This was answered here: https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,5601.msg27345.html#msg27345

If a track is played without inserting it in a database, is that date stored as the registration date in the DB?
Adding a track to the Music Library doesn't really change anything, the track database (cache and additional information) is filled automatically.

I would like to raise the question of probability on the tabs again, if it is possible to add in this version would be very useful, since the way it is is very loaded since it is not intended to insert a separator for each commercial as well as that it has protection of repetition .
Can you please provide more information?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 01, 2018, 09:39:54 AM
bom dia Senhores
gostaria da chave de linceca do radio boss58 se possivel deis de ja agradeco
Please send a request as mentioned in the first post.

Photo 4-How to see the insertion of the promo (green and brown stripes) cut out the jingle that shows the program that remains at the top. This is not nice the correct one should enter the promo after ending the song aired as in photo 5
I don't think that would be correct - you need the event that was started last (Photo 4) play before the event that was started first (Photo 2). This is against the natural order.
I suggest you to enable the "If there are scheduled tracks in the playlist, enqueue" option for the promo event (the one that is on Photo 4) so that it will go after the program event (Photo 2) - in this case, it will not break the program event and it will be left as a whole.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 01, 2018, 10:08:55 AM
Are there any error messages? The file names look OK and shouldn't be a problem...
There is no error message.
Only that the metadata is not imported into the database, and the playcount is always at zero (It does not increase when playing the track)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 01, 2018, 10:13:03 AM
It only mutes the sound card playback - the streaming is not affected. We can add this to the "Control" section in the settings, to disable the option.
The purpose of this option is actually for people who have only one sound card and stream to the net. This allows to hear own broadcast and prelisten tracks on the same card, muting the main playback.
This can be very useful for these cases, but for terrestrial stations it is very dangerous. We have disabled the volume control of RadioBOSS to avoid accidents and this is more prone to accidents.

Is not it a better idea to mute the monitoring board? In this case, the main output is not affected.
Or if not an option to turn this off
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 01, 2018, 10:17:08 AM
Recently restart the PC. (It was not frozen) and when starting RB I do not charge the last profile.
I loaded it manually and everything worked ok (indicating that the profile was not damaged)
Is it possible to improve this?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on October 01, 2018, 11:48:01 AM
I don't think that would be correct - you need the event that was started last (Photo 4) play before the event that was started first (Photo 2). This is against the natural order.
I suggest you to enable the "If there are scheduled tracks in the playlist, enqueue" option for the promo event (the one that is on Photo 4) so that it will go after the program event (Photo 2) - in this case, it will not break the program event and it will be left as a whole.

Ok
Well then do as you said
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 01, 2018, 12:24:29 PM
Off topic: Format one of the main PCs and restarting Windows does not reconnect the shared folder.
I remember that we discussed it before and there were some steps to solve it, but I can not find it in the forum.
Dmitry remember what those steps were?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 01, 2018, 04:50:39 PM
The source is always the playlist (and any custom titles assigned for file types, etc). What server type do you use? We'll try to reproduce it here.

You can view the Server here :
http://138.68.236.50:8000/index.html

Both these streams come from the output of the very same RB player.

Stream 2 uses RadioCaster and reflects the information within nowplaying.txt

Stream 4 uses the built in streaming from RadioBoss BUT is NOT reflecting all the information from within nowplaying.txt.

This is a possibility that might help finding a solution. Yesterday I was doing tests with Edcast (a Radiocaster equivalent)
Edcast would not read the second line (being the Playing Next song) in the txt file.
Maybe this is the case with the built in Broadcast in RB not reading this second line, whereas RadioCaster is reading it with no problems.

Anyway, as this is the first time when this option brought confusion, and this option exists for 5 years at the least, I think we can safely leave it where it is
Righto. Then lets compromise. Maybe reword it so it says "Start playback (of Playlist)" or " Start playback (of Playlist 1)" so as it takes away any impression of Playback meaning streaming, and thus is very clear.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 01, 2018, 08:23:42 PM
Quote from: celso on September 30, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
I would like to raise the question of probability on the tabs again, if it is possible to add in this version would be very useful, since the way it is is very loaded since it is not intended to insert a separator for each commercial as well as that it has protection of repetition .
Can you please provide more information?

https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,5029.msg25818.html#msg25818
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 02, 2018, 12:41:51 PM
Are there any error messages? The file names look OK and shouldn't be a problem...
There is no error message.
Only that the metadata is not imported into the database, and the playcount is always at zero (It does not increase when playing the track)
OK, thank you - we'll check if it's a bug.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Stop, Track-Tool, Font
Post by: bs online on October 02, 2018, 04:50:28 PM
Even when I am have the "stop after current track" option enables, RB shows up the next track in the upper right corner. RB doesn't play it after end, but is showing the countdown for intro on current track section.

Also I'd like have RB's Track Tool to save changes by default... maybe with an option to disable that confirmation window at all? I want to save time when preparing my songs.

Another thing is, that title bar and menu bar hasn't the font selected for "main window"... it seems to be Tahoma?!Also track infos cut off, when font size is >10.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 02, 2018, 07:32:15 PM
Playlist Refresh rather than just a Repeat
I have a small playlist of circa 20 items, and everyday I manually add tracks and manually delete tracks. The length of the Playlist varies from day to day and just repeats roughly every 3/4/5 hours. After any changes I make, I click on SAVE.
The repeat button is turned on.
I am trying to figure out a way to add into the bottom of the Playlist a command to totally reload it in "brand new mode" with the "not yet played" look/layout/colour. Refreshed in other words, not just totally recycled as is, with no changes whatsoever, which is what repeat is currently doing.

Now a scheduled event fits doing this perfectly excepting it needs a time/date to work and I just want the event to happen on a "cycle" basis, without any time/date being involved.
If somehow I could get it (the event) to activate and then just sit at the bottom of the Playlist and when the time for it comes to do its thing, to "clear the Playlist firstly" (in the ticked box) and next reload the updated Playlist (which will include the event itself for the next cycle).

I need an event that doesn't need a date and time. Just create it firstly, and then dump the event in the Playlist where I want it located.

Any thoughts on how I could achieve this ?
Or alternatively other means to achieve the object I am aiming for. Something that will insert a Playlist and clear out the old one.

I have tried Commands and have tried "Clear Playlist" but once that happens, repeat doesn't reload the Playlist, its only recycling what is already there, which at that point is nothing because of the "clearing" having taken place.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 02, 2018, 10:16:28 PM
Playlist Track Names
Is there a way of importing just the file name (Artist - Title) into the Playlist
without importing any additional database information at all (such as APEv2) ?
I am not wanting the additional database information to take over from a simple Artist - Title naming.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Cartwall errors
Post by: bs online on October 03, 2018, 08:56:36 AM
The "error" label on an invalid cartwall element should be shown at RadioBOSS startup. That prevents ugly error prompts. :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Options
Post by: bs online on October 03, 2018, 10:02:40 AM
Why don't you order the settings tree more by relevance (1) or rearrange the style properties (2), that it makes more sense? =)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Track Tool style
Post by: bs online on October 03, 2018, 10:05:48 AM
I wondering about, that I am not able to choose "Charcoal Dark Slate" for Track Tool, and "Amethyst Kamri" not for main window.

Woulnd't it be better to move the "Amethyst Kamri" to general RadioBOSS Settings, apply UI design to TrackTool / Music libary and delete the "style button" in track tool?

And why does Track Tool using another font family?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - More Track-Tool improvements
Post by: bs online on October 03, 2018, 10:43:05 AM
In addition to my post before I made some minds about the track tool.The arrangement of the items at this point is a bit narrowly and confusing.
That's why I have some improvements.

General:
Row 1:
Row 2:
Finally that cleans up the Track Tool a bit, and the new arrangement would make more sense (because it's "logic").What do you think about that? =)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 03, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
In addition to my post before I made some minds about the track tool.The arrangement of the items at this point is a bit narrowly and confusing.
That's why I have some improvements.

I like your suggested improvements Basti.   :)
Some good ideas there. And you have done some excellent work in the graphics too, which look really good.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Ssd97k on October 03, 2018, 06:57:32 PM
Please add a vu meter for the encoder, but allow it to open in a separate window or somewhere, so we can monitor input levels. Not hiding in the encoder.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 04, 2018, 07:48:36 AM
This can be very useful for these cases, but for terrestrial stations it is very dangerous. We have disabled the volume control of RadioBOSS to avoid accidents and this is more prone to accidents.
I think we'll add this to the "Controls" in the settings so you can disable this feature.

Recently restart the PC. (It was not frozen) and when starting RB I do not charge the last profile.
I loaded it manually and everything worked ok (indicating that the profile was not damaged)
Is it possible to improve this?
If the restart was graceful (e.g. using the Start menu) then the profile will be saved. If it was restarted forcefully, like using the Reset button, the last profile may not be saved due to caching and other reasons. There's no easy way to improve it, other that avoiding forceful reboots.

Off topic: Format one of the main PCs and restarting Windows does not reconnect the shared folder.
I remember that we discussed it before and there were some steps to solve it, but I can not find it in the forum.
Dmitry remember what those steps were?
I don't recall this was discussed before so I can't help you with this, I'm sorry. Usually you need to mount the shared folder as a drive and it should be kept between restarts.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 04, 2018, 08:10:31 AM
Stream 4 uses the built in streaming from RadioBoss BUT is NOT reflecting all the information from within nowplaying.txt.
Please note that RadioBOSS never reads the "nowplaying" file. It only writes to it. It sends the titles to the server according to the rules (broadcasting title format etc). If it's playing a network stream, it reads the title information from the stream - then it will write this title to the nowplaying file (if enabled) and will send the same title to streaming servers it broadcadts to (according to broadcast title format and other settings).

Righto. Then lets compromise. Maybe reword it so it says "Start playback (of Playlist)" or " Start playback (of Playlist 1)" so as it takes away any impression of Playback meaning streaming, and thus is very clear.
Playback means playback. And it's not always "Playlist 1" as tabs are often renamed. This should be left as it is, renaming anything in the UI means updating all language files and user manual, so it has to be a really good reason to do so :)

Quote from: celso on September 30, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
I would like to raise the question of probability on the tabs again, if it is possible to add in this version would be very useful, since the way it is is very loaded since it is not intended to insert a separator for each commercial as well as that it has protection of repetition .
Can you please provide more information?

https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,5029.msg25818.html#msg25818
This is planned for the future versions (but not for 5.8, I'm sorry).

Even when I am have the "stop after current track" option enables, RB shows up the next track in the upper right corner. RB doesn't play it after end, but is showing the countdown for intro on current track section.
Yes, it should be empty - will be fixed.

Also I'd like have RB's Track Tool to save changes by default... maybe with an option to disable that confirmation window at all? I want to save time when preparing my songs.
Noted - I think an option will be added to make it work this way.

Another thing is, that title bar and menu bar hasn't the font selected for "main window"... it seems to be Tahoma?!Also track infos cut off, when font size is >10.
The track info tab will resize to fit the large font. As for title and menu fonts, there are technical reasons for those to stay at default fonts (custom fonts doesn't work properly).

I am trying to figure out a way to add into the bottom of the Playlist a command to totally reload it in "brand new mode" with the "not yet played" look/layout/colour. Refreshed in other words, not just totally recycled as is, with no changes whatsoever, which is what repeat is currently doing.
Do you mean reset the "played" state for the tracks and do nothing else?

Is there a way of importing just the file name (Artist - Title) into the Playlist
without importing any additional database information at all (such as APEv2) ?
I am not wanting the additional database information to take over from a simple Artist - Title naming.
Additional information contain a different type of information (playcount, last played etc) and does not override the artist/title information that is read from the tag.

The "error" label on an invalid cartwall element should be shown at RadioBOSS startup. That prevents ugly error prompts. :)
This is a question, as cart wall can be invalid when RadioBOSS was started, but is actually valid when it's played. Please note that checking cart walls on startup when there are many pages of them is a time consuming operation.

Why don't you order the settings tree more by relevance (1) or rearrange the style properties (2), that it makes more sense? =)
That looks better, no doubt. But the problem here is that the software exists for some time (15+ years), and people have habits. Rearranging the settings will require re-learning and searching for things that are now moved to different places. This can be annoying so we delay major UI changes as long as possible :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 04, 2018, 08:22:27 AM
Woulnd't it be better to move the "Amethyst Kamri" to general RadioBOSS Settings, apply UI design to TrackTool / Music libary and delete the "style button" in track tool?
Track Tool has its own styling options, and currently it uses the default system font for its window (the font setting is actually only available in RadioBOSS as it's the windows that is on the screen most of the time). The thing with TT is that the song waveform and other controls there doesn't look good with many styles, so the style set is limited.

Remove "style" Button due to my last posting (apply style from global RB settings)
The styles are different on purpose, some users have different styles for Track Tool, Ads Scheduler to easily distinguish between windows.

In addition to my post before I made some minds about the track tool.The arrangement of the items at this point is a bit narrowly and confusing.
That's why I have some improvements.
This looks interesting and thanks for the demo window. Please note that there could be up to 5 more user defined fields on the left and this will make window tall. The window as it is now indeed has lots of controls and it requires deeper changes, like going away from concept of "[ ] Name N.NN Set Play" for markers to something else...
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 04, 2018, 08:23:05 AM
Please add a vu meter for the encoder, but allow it to open in a separate window or somewhere, so we can monitor input levels. Not hiding in the encoder.
You can click "View"->"Mic and VU meter in the center" menu command to make the VU meter always visible.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 04, 2018, 08:36:23 AM
Another track with problems using the MySql database: I guess by the file name.

M:\...\Axwell Λ Ingrosso - Something New.mp3
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 04, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
I guess by the file name.
Yes, / and \ are invalid characters for the file system. You should rename this file. E. g. I am using MP3Tag and MusicBee for sorting and filtering such characters.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 04, 2018, 08:57:04 AM
If it is true that / and \ are not valid but here the character is Λ (It is not "/\"
)
This file is being played since 2015 with this name. The problem is that the MySql database has a problem with some characters
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 04, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
the character is Λ (It is not "/\")
Oh sorry, my fault. Didn't mind it.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 04, 2018, 04:32:59 PM
Do you mean reset the "played" state for the tracks and do nothing else?

YES. When it reaches the end of the Playlist and then repeats, nothing is changing excepting the Start Time. You no longer have the new playlist look (un-played) but instead have the stale played look recycling. The list should look like new every time it repeats.
And I am looking for some way to achieve this.

Additional information contain a different type of information (playcount, last played etc) and does not override the artist/title information that is read from the tag.
For me, the Playlist is short (circa 15 to 20 items) and changes every day. I just don't need any additional information such as play counts etc. In fact the play counts are driving me nutz. I have my folder listed in descending date time showing the latest imported file/s. So I know whats new, the latest, to be added into the playlist.
I can simply take the latest entry or entry's from the folder and place it manually where I want in the playlist. Every time play count etc rewrites the file, old files get placed at the top in the folder. Now I have to go hunting for whats new. I may spend an hour or more downloading files before manually placing them, but in the meantime play count is busy re-arranging things by the time I get there.
The options at the moment are APEv2, MySQL and SQLite.
I don't want any of those. All I want is the track name only without any additional database information.
But I cannot see anyway of achieving that.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Pretmaker on October 04, 2018, 04:44:51 PM
Quick question, what does this fix/feature entail?

* Music DSP does not affect microphone

Does that mean that any DSP/VST plugins that are set on the main FX tab will not be used with the microphone output? If so, how can we set the same DSP plugin on the microphone with the same settings without causing too much latency?

Reason this is important is that in the DSP FX properties I use StereoTool enhancement with AGC and other optimizations that create a specific sound for internet broadcasts (to the same degree normal FM stations use to create better and distinct sounds).
If for example the microphone would not route trough this, that would mean that my voice won't be able to sound louder than the music.

If I read this feature correctly, it would be a no-go for this release as this is limiting output encoding options for internet radio stations.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 04, 2018, 05:12:16 PM
Dear djsoft.
Normally I try my best to be complementary of your efforts to make improvements to RB (which are usually pretty good). But sometimes when people are putting forward suggestions/improvements, your response is instead making me irritated. And today is one of those days.
SO today I am going to put my critical hat on.

Sometimes developers get into the mode of "I know whats best", but in fact as a consumer if you don't provide what I want, I will move on to where I can find what I want because somebody is providing that need. Sometimes you need to be pushed into making changes, much as you might be reluctant to do so.
You cannot sit on your laurels and not make changes because they are too hard. That argument doesn't wash. Don't put things into the too hard basket. Nothing is too hard, it just needs working on.
Consumers are the ones that drive changes and should be listened to.
The old saying goes "Change or be Changed".
Reading your replies today (and not only today either), I am getting the distinct impression you don't want to make change because you don't want to listen to what people are saying and just flinging out the "too hard" argument to deter them.
Today you have been told by several people that improvements are needed, and I have to agree with them. Many (in my view) are long overdue. Most of us can adapt to change, particularly if its an improvement that makes the software operate better for us. However change cannot be dramatic and ohh so different...suddenly. Its has to be slow and incremental and more than anything an improvement on the previous version, but at a pace that people have no trouble in adapting to (a classic example of a bad software change was when Winamp tried to bring in their Ver 3, it was a disaster, as it was to dramatic a change, and people disliked it intensely).

Basti is right when he says there needs to be a better order, a more logical place to find things.
For me your Options layout is a nightmare to work through. Things are all over the show. Its like bits have been added in, and ohhh where will we put it, ohh lets just plonk it in here, because there is a gap.
Options need improving....consolidating and re-ordered. Majorly !

You should instead of just saying to Basti that his graphics "look nice", instead you should be asking for others opinions on his layout, what do you lot think of his suggestions ?, and then considering those replies and making changes as a result.

Your HELP should be online and in one place only. Having help in the software these days is old hat and yesteryear. If you had it online, you would only need to make one change, in one place, and quickly, without it being such a laborious task under your present system.

There must be a much better system for translations. Surely ? Consumer driven. A place where nominated members can log on and can go and actually do the translations for you immediately, you then pick it up and make the change straight away in RB and in Help. You seem to have a laborious process for these language changes which could be improved, saving you a task which you don't seem to like doing ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 04, 2018, 05:39:00 PM
Please note that RadioBOSS never reads the "nowplaying" file. It only writes to it. It sends the titles to the server according to the rules (broadcasting title format etc). If it's playing a network stream, it reads the title information from the stream - then it will write this title to the nowplaying file (if enabled) and will send the same title to streaming servers it broadcadts to (according to broadcast title format and other settings).

I do fully understand that. And always have.
What I having been saying is that title information being sent to the nowplaying file is not the same as that being streamed direct.
The "Include Next Track Info" box is ticked

(1) nowplaying file contains two titles (Stream #2)
(2) the inbuilt streamer is providing just one title to the Server (Stream #4).

So its saying one thing to the nowplaying file and another to the direct stream.
And THAT is what I am asking to be fixed.
Look at my Server and see streams #2 and #4 (as previously advised).
There is the result of what I am talking about.
http://138.68.236.50:8000
Stream #2 has two titles and Stream #4 has just one title.
Both are coming from the very same RB with the "Include next Track Info" box ticked.

This is a classic example of what I was talking about before, with choices in Options being all over the show and not in a logical and obvious location.
The "Include Next Track Info" choice should be in Broadcast/Metadata, the obvious place to be making this choice. And NOT under reports.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 04, 2018, 09:53:08 PM
Bug in file type: changes are applied when editing. (If the edition is canceled the same change applies)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 06, 2018, 04:26:33 AM
Another track with problems using the MySql database: I guess by the file name.
The next version should have this problem fixed.

YES. When it reaches the end of the Playlist and then repeats, nothing is changing excepting the Start Time. You no longer have the new playlist look (un-played) but instead have the stale played look recycling. The list should look like new every time it repeats.
And I am looking for some way to achieve this.
OK, I think there will be a way to do it - a scheduler command and/or menu command to reset the played state.

For me, the Playlist is short (circa 15 to 20 items) and changes every day. I just don't need any additional information such as play counts etc.
This is counted automatically and you're free to ignore this information :) Turning this off is not a good solution as many other parts of the program require additional information to function properly.

Every time play count etc rewrites the file, old files get placed at the top in the folder. Now I have to go hunting for whats new.
In this case, the best solution would be to switch additional information storage to SQLite database. It does not require any configuration, so the only thing you need to do is change the type in the settings and click OK. This will keep the files unchanged while the information will be stored, in case you need it (note that it's not only playcount, it's also all labels in Track Tool, "disabled" flag, etc - basically, anything beyond the standard tag fields).

Does that mean that any DSP/VST plugins that are set on the main FX tab will not be used with the microphone output? If so, how can we set the same DSP plugin on the microphone with the same settings without causing too much latency?
Yes, this means that now music DSP (the one that is configured in the main window) does not affect microphone. However, generally you wouldn't be able to use the same plugin for mic and music as due to how most of the plugins work, there will be conflicts, weird error messages etc.

If I read this feature correctly, it would be a no-go for this release as this is limiting output encoding options for internet radio stations.
We can make it configurable, to switch it to work as it was. But we received lots of complaints about it - many people didn't like that music DSP is applied to microphone.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 06, 2018, 05:08:04 AM
Normally I try my best to be complementary of your efforts to make improvements to RB (which are usually pretty good). But sometimes when people are putting forward suggestions/improvements, your response is instead making me irritated. And today is one of those days.
I think the problem here is that a short forum reply does not really show some important internal processes. Most suggestions, even if not immediately accepted (or implemented) still go to the internal bug tracker for later consideration; later they are being compared to other similar suggestions and our own view on how the product should develop. So nothing is dropped if I say "we won't implement this now".

Consumers are the ones that drive changes and should be listened to.
This is how it always was and will always be here. There are many new features added each version and most of them were asked before by csustomers. Like something is asked during RB 5.6 beta and the feature is added in 5.7 or 5.8. There are bad examples as well, when requested feature was added after 7 years. But this is an exception :) and most of the time it is much faster.

a classic example of a bad software change was when Winamp tried to bring in their Ver 3
Yes, this is a good example of how changing the UI goes wrong, and that's why rearranging settings window in RadioBOSS could become such a bad example as well.
Yes, there are some settings that are accessed more frequently than others, but that also depends on the user's situation... RadioBOSS settings window is not really complicated, and it doesn't (yet) require complete overhaul (while some minor improvements could be made and anyone is welcome to suggest those). I suggest you to take a look at the options window from Visual Studio to compare (attached).

For me your Options layout is a nightmare to work through. Things are all over the show. Its like bits have been added in, and ohhh where will we put it, ohh lets just plonk it in here, because there is a gap.
This is not far from the truth, actually. The "Fading" section is the extreme case of this.

If you think that some changes should be made, now is a good time to state those - some of them might be implemented right in this beta, or be moved to the future releases.

You should instead of just saying to Basti that his graphics "look nice", instead you should be asking for others opinions on his layout, what do you lot think of his suggestions ?, and then considering those replies and making changes as a result.
This is implied, and anyone is free to comment on proposed changes, or offer something else.

Your HELP should be online and in one place only. Having help in the software these days is old hat and yesteryear. If you had it online, you would only need to make one change, in one place, and quickly, without it being such a laborious task under your present system.
I think I was misunderstood, the manual was mentioned to show that renaming some option is not as simple as might seem - and its should be done where it's justified.
The online help available as well: https://www.djsoft.net/enu/support.htm
And, of course, internally it has one base source from where all help formats are built.

There must be a much better system for translations. Surely ? Consumer driven. A place where nominated members can log on and can go and actually do the translations for you immediately, you then pick it up and make the change straight away in RB and in Help. You seem to have a laborious process for these language changes which could be improved, saving you a task which you don't seem to like doing ?
It's automated for the most part. Regardless of how the translation is made, if some option is renamed, it will require for the translation maintainer to update the translation - and this is one more reason to avoid renaming unless it really brings value.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 06, 2018, 05:17:17 AM
What I having been saying is that title information being sent to the nowplaying file is not the same as that being streamed direct.
The "Include Next Track Info" box is ticked

(1) nowplaying file contains two titles (Stream #2)
(2) the inbuilt streamer is providing just one title to the Server (Stream #4).
Yes. The different information is sent. The "Include Next Track Info" only controls if the nowplaying file will include the next track information. It does not affect what is being sent to the streaming server. Also, IIRC, servers do not have means of accepting the next track information, they only show the currently playing track information.
Typically, if you need to show the next track on your web site, this is achieved by other means like exporting the nowplaying file to your web site and use it to show the current and next track names, an example is here: https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,3176.0.html (it's for the current track only but the principle is the same).

The "Include Next Track Info" choice should be in Broadcast/Metadata, the obvious place to be making this choice. And NOT under reports.
This option is there as it only controls how the "nowplaying" file is formed and does not affect anything else.

In your example, I understand (from your other posts) that a different process is involved. Where you have the two titles, it comes from RadioCaster which reads RadioBOSS's nowplaying file that has current and next track titles. So the title source in this case is nowplaying file, which is not the case in RadioBOSS.

There can be a pretty simple solution, as RadioBOSS already "knows" what will be playing next, we can add new title variable that will hold the next track title, so it will be possible to set the streaming title format to something like this:
Now playing: %artist - %title (next: %nexttitle)

What do you think?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Pretmaker on October 06, 2018, 05:17:43 AM
If I read this feature correctly, it would be a no-go for this release as this is limiting output encoding options for internet radio stations.
We can make it configurable, to switch it to work as it was. But we received lots of complaints about it - many people didn't like that music DSP is applied to microphone.

Please do make it configurable, as allot of people are using this feature like this I think. If you want, I can give you some examples audio files of what happens exactly between the 2 versions so you'll see the need for this :).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 06, 2018, 07:48:11 AM
Please do make it configurable, as allot of people are using this feature like this I think. If you want, I can give you some examples audio files of what happens exactly between the 2 versions so you'll see the need for this .
This is not necessary - a configuration option to control this will be added in one of the next updates.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 06, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
I would like to do the translation into Portuguese Brazil, there are many differences for Portuguese Portugal, they will be better understood. I wonder if you have any program for this.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 06, 2018, 11:55:34 AM
I would like to do the translation into Portuguese Brazil, there are many differences for Portuguese Portugal, they will be better understood. I wonder if you have any program for this.
I think this will be better discussed in private - please write to support@djsoft.net and we'll continue there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 06, 2018, 12:19:35 PM
Bug in file type: changes are applied when editing. (If the edition is canceled the same change applies)
Yes, this is a known issue and the problem also exists with broadcasting encoders and some other settings too. I don't think this will be fixed, instead, the Cancel button may be removed from the settings, as it seems to be how most of the "settings" windows work nowadays (e.g. settings in Windows 10).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 06, 2018, 05:31:12 PM
Thank you djsoft for your replies.
I will try and work my way through some of these issues and post them.

There are often small anomalies and this is one of them that shouldnt be. You could argue its obvious. But to someone, it may not be. :

Options/Styles
Here you have :
Previous Track
Current Track
Next Track
(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9206)

AND YET the actual names being used are totally different
Last Track
ON Air
Coming Up Next
(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9207)


So the question is, why does Styles not match the actual names being used ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 06, 2018, 06:06:45 PM
Yes, there are some settings that are accessed more frequently than others, but that also depends on the user's situation... RadioBOSS settings window is not really complicated, and it doesn't (yet) require complete overhaul (while some minor improvements could be made and anyone is welcome to suggest those). I suggest you to take a look at the options window from Visual Studio to compare (attached)

I am not familiar with Visual Studio, but you are absolutely right, its a shocker of a menu system. And certainly a good example of "how NOT to do it" !
But its not a matter of just saying how good yours is compared to them. You need to be saying to yourself "how can we bring an even better presentation to that which we presently provide".

Now here is a small example of what I spent 35 frustrating minutes today trying to find. That was driving me Nutz. I couldn't remember how I had changed the colour under the mouse. I went thru everything in Style's, hunted high and low elsewhere, went away in frustration, came back afresh , and finally found it.

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9209)

BUT my thinking was "should this not have been under Styles in the first place, where all the colour changes are located ??". And I daresay I would have found it in no time, were it to be located there ?




Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 06, 2018, 06:39:50 PM
If you think that some changes should be made, now is a good time to state those - some of them might be implemented right in this beta, or be moved to the future releases.

I think people will put stuff forward, if they think you will carefully and considerately listen to their idea (I am never sure whether its just you, or other people are involved). They want to hear what you/they think, and whether the time and effort they have put into it has made their often at considerable time and effort worthwhile.
I am not certain that Basti would have gone away with a great impression of how you handled it. That you gave a lot of weight to it.  He went to a lot of trouble with his graphics, a lot of work involved, but you needed to leave him with the impression you have looked at it with very serious regard as to its practicality, and whether or not you would adopt it, not necessarily now, but eventually in the future. Even if you just used it as a building block for another idea.
Not just putting it into the too hard basket. Was it a good idea. Did you like it ? Was it practical ? Will you use it ? How did you leave Basti with some praise, some idea of where his proposal would be heading for further use or development ?

Not every proposal put forward will be a winner. Yes, I agree on that.
BUT from your consumers will come some great ideas.
They do the work, you make the gain.

I liked Basti's proposal and that is why I made a post supporting it. It solved what I saw as an issue, too many choices not in some sort of logical place and order. What he proposed was so much better than what already exists. I liked the fact that he used graphics, to try and give you a very clear idea of what his proposal was.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 06, 2018, 07:06:28 PM
OK, I think there will be a way to do it - a scheduler command and/or menu command to reset the played state.

Yes, just do it.
Whatever way you think is the best.

In this case, the best solution would be to switch additional information storage to SQLite database.

I have switched to SQLite and will see if I feel happier about the way things are running.

APEv2
I struck an issue with APEv2 whereby a small, just over a one minute track, kept cutting into about one third into the track (from the start) in spite of the fact that there was a Start and End put in via Tracktool.
I couldn't find any logical reason for it happening. So in the finish I put a Mix in via Tracktool lined up right next to End, and that finally caused the track to work as it should.
Maybe it was something I couldn't physically see that was causing the issue, but it did leave me wondering if Tracktool should have a button to click that says "Clear all settings back to Original" ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 06, 2018, 07:13:25 PM
There can be a pretty simple solution, as RadioBOSS already "knows" what will be playing next, we can add new title variable that will hold the next track title, so it will be possible to set the streaming title format to something like this:
Now playing: %artist - %title (next: %nexttitle)

What do you think?

Yes, agree.
That would be a good solution.
Will the word "Next:" appear ?

You have talked about a nowplaying.txt template that is coming up in the future, which I am presuming RadioCaster and RadioBoss will both be using ?

Is there some technical reason as to why the inbuilt broadcast doesn't have the ability to choose the nowplaying.txt file just like Radiocaster does (being an optional choice within Radiocaster) ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 06, 2018, 07:46:30 PM
and it doesn't (yet) require complete overhaul (while some minor improvements could be made and anyone is welcome to suggest those).
The first small step could be the style settings only I suggested here in (2): https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,5601.msg27393.html#msg27393

Maybe also work on Track Tool suggested here: https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php/topic,5601.msg27395.html#msg27395

These 2 small things would be a beginning to a good future, or so? :P
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.2 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 06, 2018, 11:53:16 PM
I have found what I am pretty sure is a major BUG.
The smaller the file, the bigger this problem seems to be in the sense that its get exaggerated.
In fact it is chopping most of my files I am finding out, but some are several hours long, so you don't really notice. And the red line is virtually at the end, so close to the right hand side its not chopping much.

This all started when 3 small files together were not playing in full, in fact were jumping from one to the other, but not at a 6 secs mix.
The file in the Track Tool pic below is 84.3 secs long.
The mix point in Crossfades is 6 secs long.
Its mixing at where the red line is, but not turning the usual blue colour to show a mix fade out point (or is that just caused by Track Tool ? I am pretty sure its at all mixing points).
I was initially blaming this problem on APEv2, but now I don't think it is since its continuing on on SQLite

When you look at the pic showing the picture playing there is a red line at circa 60 secs from the end. This isn't 6 seconds from the end, but almost at the opposite end, the start (but not 6 secs from the start).
Whether "Remove Gaps" is on or off doesn't seem to make any difference.
Take the Crossfades Mix out and you will see in the second picture, the track will play in full with NO red line anywhere in the track.

To make sure I have this right.
When you add in a mix point by itself, it mixes at that point. In this example it mixes at 6 seconds.

NOW if you add in "Trigger Mix at" it reads ahead from 6 seconds until the end (or end of actual sound), determines where the -11.3 db target is and mixes at that point.
"Trigger Mix at" does not work by itself when I read the Help file. Only in conjunction with the Mix Point.

If I have that right, and that is the way it is supposed to work, then something is wrong.

Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.2 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 07, 2018, 02:10:43 AM
There is another Bug.
In making additions or deletions in the Playlist, there has been quite a few times now when I have clicked on the SAVE button only to have it come up SAVE AS. YES, I am clicking on the right one.
I just ignore it and escape.
Five minutes later I can do the same thing and the SAVE button will work exactly as expected.

Its not constantly doing this error, just erratically.

PS:
Maybe something to do with suffix.
I am using .m3u
I think sometimes its looking for and defaulting to .m3u8
hence its coming up with a save as.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.2 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 07, 2018, 02:39:10 AM
Scheduled Events BUG
If you click TIME, and set up a scheduled event, like SAYTIME for example with "Repeat Every" x minutes
then change later to HOURS, the Repeat button fades and is unusable, BUT still has an X in it.
This is causing your Hours change to action, it goes thru all the motions, but in the final act does not insert TIME into the Playlist.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 07, 2018, 06:01:06 AM
AND YET the actual names being used are totally different
So the question is, why does Styles not match the actual names being used ?
I don't know why it's like this - will be fixed :)

BUT my thinking was "should this not have been under Styles in the first place, where all the colour changes are located ??". And I daresay I would have found it in no time, were it to be located there ?
Indeed. In the past, there was no "Style" category, and all the settings were in the "View" section. This option will be relocated, thank you!

But its not a matter of just saying how good yours is compared to them. You need to be saying to yourself "how can we bring an even better presentation to that which we presently provide".
When "Settings" are concerned, there's not much can be done about it. In the software with lots of options, the settings window will be packed with controls and categories. This is inevitable. But we'll do some minor rearrangements to make the window more logical and easier to use.

I think people will put stuff forward, if they think you will carefully and considerately listen to their idea (I am never sure whether its just you, or other people are involved).
If other people are involved, they write under their own accounts :) As for ideas, as I said before, all suggestions are added to the bug tracker and considered for the future versions. We take backwards compatibility seriously, so any change must have a reason, especially breaking ones that could potentially make updating to a new version a pain.

I struck an issue with APEv2 whereby a small, just over a one minute track, kept cutting into about one third into the track (from the start) in spite of the fact that there was a Start and End put in via Tracktool.
There is a bug, it sometimes doesn't trim the silence correctly from the short tracks. This bug is fixed for the next update (5.8.0.3), it should be released today, please check if the issue is still there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 07, 2018, 06:09:20 AM
That would be a good solution.
Will the word "Next:" appear ?
You set the title format to what you need - it can include any custom text.

Is there some technical reason as to why the inbuilt broadcast doesn't have the ability to choose the nowplaying.txt file just like Radiocaster does (being an optional choice within Radiocaster) ?
It's about what comes from where. RadioBOSS creates nowplaying file to export the title to external software, like RadioCaster. It doesn't make much sense to read the file it just created as it can simply use this information directly.

You have talked about a nowplaying.txt template that is coming up in the future, which I am presuming RadioCaster and RadioBoss will both be using ?
Yes, the template will be useful for different reasons, e.g. using other software or hardware that requires specific nowplaying format. It is only for RadioBOSS - to tell how the nowplaying file should be formed. RadioCaster will work as it does now.

Maybe it was something I couldn't physically see that was causing the issue, but it did leave me wondering if Tracktool should have a button to click that says "Clear all settings back to Original" ?
There is a "Delete additional information" checkbox at the bottom to reset the file.

These 2 small things would be a beginning to a good future, or so?
Some of the changes will be implemented in the upcoming updates. Then we'll see :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 07, 2018, 06:12:29 AM
If I have that right, and that is the way it is supposed to work, then something is wrong.
Please wait for the next update, the issue should be fixed there.

In making additions or deletions in the Playlist, there has been quite a few times now when I have clicked on the SAVE button only to have it come up SAVE AS. YES, I am clicking on the right one.
I just ignore it and escape.
Five minutes later I can do the same thing and the SAVE button will work exactly as expected.

Its not constantly doing this error, just erratically.

PS:
Maybe something to do with suffix.
I am using .m3u
I think sometimes its looking for and defaulting to .m3u8
hence its coming up with a save as.
You should use m3u8 as m3u is ANSI playlist and some international character can be corrupted there. The Save button will be checked.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 07, 2018, 06:14:17 AM
If you click TIME, and set up a scheduled event, like SAYTIME for example with "Repeat Every" x minutes
then change later to HOURS, the Repeat button fades and is unusable, BUT still has an X in it.
This is causing your Hours change to action, it goes thru all the motions, but in the final act does not insert TIME into the Playlist.
If you switch to "Hours" then repeats are not supported and will not be used. There was a bug with "Hours" in the first versions but it should work fine in the latest 5.8.0.2 update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 07, 2018, 08:39:14 AM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.3 beta

Changes:

Download: http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.3.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on October 07, 2018, 02:49:47 PM
Dmitriy, what about the same event at different hours and different minutes:


- 14:45
- 16:45
- 18:30
- 21:25


We asked it for YEARS.
How long (how many years) will take to see it implemented?
That is THE MOST important thing for us. Almost all the rest we don't need...
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.3 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 07, 2018, 03:20:12 PM
Many thanks for your replies and for all your responses to my somewhat vigorous posting yesterday. Its always appreciated  :)

If you switch to "Hours" then repeats are not supported and will not be used. There was a bug with "Hours" in the first versions but it should work fine in the latest 5.8.0.2 update.

I discovered that if I switch back to TIME, remove the X from "Repeat every" then go back to HOURS this solves the Bug that is occurring.
The HOURS, per sei, as you indicate are working perfectly, for instance when you create a brand new event.

OK, I think there will be a way to do it - a scheduler command and/or menu command to reset the played state.

Thank you. Keep me posted on this change.

There is a bug, it sometimes doesn't trim the silence correctly from the short tracks. This bug is fixed for the next update (5.8.0.3), it should be released today, please check if the issue is still there.

Unfortunately the bug is still there, in 5.8.0.3, unchanged from my previous posting about it.
Also past the RED line, to the right hand side, its also not changing to the usual blue colour that it did in the past.
In order to get it working without any problems I have had to uncheck "Mix Point" and "Trigger Mix at" and I'm only using Remove Gaps for my mixing.

PS
I have just discovered that Remove Gaps is not working either.
I have a file which is downloaded as a new file 6 days a week. It always has about 60 secs of dead air on the end. This dead air played with the Remove Gaps set as per attached. Also pic from Track Tool attached.

METADATA
My word insert is working (see attached) but %nexttitle is not yet active. Is that correct ?
Or do I have something wrong ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Too short fields, labels and missing string
Post by: bs online on October 08, 2018, 10:21:15 AM
Hi Dmitry,
I miss the menu string "Language" and "Manual" in event planner for translation.
I've found some fields and labels, that are too short... The will be shown only with font style size of 9 - but not with 10. Thats very ugly.
And now I'm not able to starting RadioBOSS again after set "read file tags in separate process" in General -> Advanced.... how to fix without loosing all my settings? (bug report sent)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Marco Nicolosi on October 08, 2018, 12:26:41 PM
Hello Dmitry
In the Italian translation This page of the Style, as you see in the picture, is completely out of the picture and words in Italian overlap. The display must be Correct.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 08, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
Teaser does not work on pre-listening as before, I think it's a bug. Before the function was allowed to give pre-listening teaser, very useful function.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on October 08, 2018, 05:42:03 PM
There is an option to add an item to the end of the list in the event options scheduler. I had a few situations that left one or two songs on the play list that did not play and it was scheduled to launch another playlist. I then had to stop the execution of the event and the play list manually added to the end of the existing play list. The insert a play list option does not match because that material is added to the current song.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on October 09, 2018, 02:55:38 PM
I have not used groups for events so far. Now I've grouped all the events in RadioBoss. I do not know if group names are listed on the task list. Jaws and NVDA do not read group names. When I hit the cursor at the point where the group name should be, Jaws and NVDA say the item list file name.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on October 10, 2018, 03:39:48 PM
Dmitry, who used the vst plugin for testing when creating accessibility. Although neither Jaws nor NVDA announce the name of the slider tonight I have tried to scroll the arrows to see how it works. That's a bad job. On most sliders as soon as a shortcut is pressed, the sound mutes or melts. I have not been able to fine-tune the MB process at all.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 11, 2018, 09:03:23 AM
Dmitriy, what about the same event at different hours and different minutes:

We asked it for YEARS.
How long (how many years) will take to see it implemented?
That is THE MOST important thing for us. Almost all the rest we don't need...
I don't think it would take years - currently this is assigned for RadioBOSS 5.9, first half of 2019.

I discovered that if I switch back to TIME, remove the X from "Repeat every" then go back to HOURS this solves the Bug that is occurring.
The HOURS, per sei, as you indicate are working perfectly, for instance when you create a brand new event.
Thank you for the details, added to the bug list.

Also past the RED line, to the right hand side, its also not changing to the usual blue colour that it did in the past.
In order to get it working without any problems I have had to uncheck "Mix Point" and "Trigger Mix at" and I'm only using Remove Gaps for my mixing.
The red line indicates the mix point, the blue fill indicates the fade out period. They may or may not be at the same point - it depends on the crossfade settings currently in action. I suggest opening a new topic about this where you provide more details, it will be easier to discuss there.

I have just discovered that Remove Gaps is not working either.
I have a file which is downloaded as a new file 6 days a week. It always has about 60 secs of dead air on the end. This dead air played with the Remove Gaps set as per attached. Also pic from Track Tool attached.
Please send the file to support@djsoft.net, we'll check it here.

My word insert is working (see attached) but %nexttitle is not yet active. Is that correct ?
Or do I have something wrong ?
It's not working yet, please wait for the next update :)

I miss the menu string "Language" and "Manual" in event planner for translation.
I've found some fields and labels, that are too short... The will be shown only with font style size of 9 - but not with 10. Thats very ugly.
Will be fixed in the next update, thank you.

In the Italian translation This page of the Style, as you see in the picture, is completely out of the picture and words in Italian overlap. The display must be Correct.
The UI is not designed to fix very long phrases - can you please change the translation to a shorter version,

Teaser does not work on pre-listening as before, I think it's a bug. Before the function was allowed to give pre-listening teaser, very useful function.
Thank you - will be fixed in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 11, 2018, 09:37:28 AM
Update to:
And now I'm not able to starting RadioBOSS again after set "read file tags in separate process" in General -> Advanced.... how to fix without loosing all my settings? (bug report sent)
I could fixed it by myself.So.... it seems to be a bug, if attached option is set "True".
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 11, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
There is an option to add an item to the end of the list in the event options scheduler. I had a few situations that left one or two songs on the play list that did not play and it was scheduled to launch another playlist. I then had to stop the execution of the event and the play list manually added to the end of the existing play list. The insert a play list option does not match because that material is added to the current song.
Depending on what end result you wish to achieve, you should consider enabling the "Clear playlist" option for certain events, so it will clear the playlist before inserting the event.

I have not used groups for events so far. Now I've grouped all the events in RadioBoss. I do not know if group names are listed on the task list. Jaws and NVDA do not read group names. When I hit the cursor at the point where the group name should be, Jaws and NVDA say the item list file name.
Unfortunately, groups are not the feature that can be used with screen reader software properly, due to technical limitations. However, you should be able to hear the group name as a data for the first column in the list.

Dmitry, who used the vst plugin for testing when creating accessibility. Although neither Jaws nor NVDA announce the name of the slider tonight I have tried to scroll the arrows to see how it works. That's a bad job. On most sliders as soon as a shortcut is pressed, the sound mutes or melts. I have not been able to fine-tune the MB process at all.
What VST plugin did you use?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 11, 2018, 09:47:45 AM
So.... it seems to be a bug, if attached option is set "True".
Yes, this is a bug, I'm sorry that I didn't give you a solution - but I'm glad that you find a solution :) We'll either fix the bug or remove this feature (it was added as troubleshooting solution in the past for some customers but it doesn't make much sense as of now).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 11, 2018, 11:30:12 AM
Even when I am have the "stop after current track" option enables, RB shows up the next track in the upper right corner. RB doesn't play it after end, but is showing the countdown for intro on current track section.
Short reminder: You said this was fixed in the last beta. Nope, it doesn't. :D
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on October 11, 2018, 01:53:40 PM
I use MBprocess. http://hornplans.free.fr/mbprocess.html
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 11, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
The red line indicates the mix point, the blue fill indicates the fade out period. They may or may not be at the same point - it depends on the crossfade settings currently in action. I suggest opening a new topic about this where you provide more details, it will be easier to discuss there.

You did mention you had a bug with short files.
I will wait until 5.8.0.4 comes out and see what happens in there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on October 11, 2018, 05:21:38 PM
There is an option to add an item to the end of the list in the event options scheduler. I had a few situations that left one or two songs on the play list that did not play and it was scheduled to launch another playlist. I then had to stop the execution of the event and the play list manually added to the end of the existing play list. The insert a play list option does not match because that material is added to the current song.
Depending on what end result you wish to achieve, you should consider enabling the "Clear playlist" option for certain events, so it will clear the playlist before inserting the event.

I use the clear play list command. But here's the situation. It is exactly 17 hours and 59 minutes. A playlist that lasted 6 hours was played. At 6 pm, a new playlist is scheduled for 6 hours. In this playlist what needs to be finished are another one or two songs and the budget of RadioBOSS The last song should be released at 18 hours and 2 or three minutes. Only after the broadcast of the last song would start the next playlist. When I use clear play list, the complete previous list is deleted. So it would be a good command to "add to the end of the play list". I would then be able to put a clear play list at the end of the day and start a new playlist with the new day.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 12, 2018, 03:33:32 AM
Short reminder: You said this was fixed in the last beta. Nope, it doesn't.
It was supposed to be fixed there, but it's not yet :) should be in the next update.

I use MBprocess. http://hornplans.free.fr/mbprocess.html
Thank you, we'll check if there's something wrong with the custom VST UI.

You did mention you had a bug with short files.
I will wait until 5.8.0.4 comes out and see what happens in there.
The fix is already in the .3 version.

So it would be a good command to "add to the end of the play list".
If playlists are inserted by scheduled events, you can enable the "If there are scheduled tracks in the playlist, enqueue" option - this will make it insert the new playlist to the end of the current playlist.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 12, 2018, 05:47:35 AM
If you click TIME, and set up a scheduled event, like SAYTIME for example with "Repeat Every" x minutes
then change later to HOURS, the Repeat button fades and is unusable, BUT still has an X in it.
This is causing your Hours change to action, it goes thru all the motions, but in the final act does not insert TIME into the Playlist.
This bug does not reproduce here. The event always starts as it should, regardless of the state of the grayed out "Repeat" checkbox. Please confirm that the bug happens in the latest 5.8.0.3 update - if so, please send a screenshot of the event that does not start.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 12, 2018, 05:13:31 PM
This bug does not reproduce here. The event always starts as it should, regardless of the state of the grayed out "Repeat" checkbox. Please confirm that the bug happens in the latest 5.8.0.3 update - if so, please send a screenshot of the event that does not start.

You are quite right. Its not happening. I am not able to reproduce the Bug after a number of attempts.
I have since deleted the original event/s that caused the problem, and have started all new events since then.
Therefore I cannot be sure of what else was in the original event that may have been a factor in causing the problem.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Track Tool save issue
Post by: bs online on October 13, 2018, 03:29:22 AM
After setting Intro/Outro (Ramp IN/Ramp OUT) the playlist doesn't display that, like you see on the screenshot attached.
Have to restart RadioBOSS evertime to see changes, or delete the song and add it new to the playlist. (Since Beta. Think this is because the way the TT works now.)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Track Tool set points
Post by: bs online on October 13, 2018, 03:43:14 AM
Quote from: Basti on 21-09-2018, 18:00:28

    When setting Hook in/out or other things it doesn't set where I click... approx 1 second later

When you set the cursor somewhere, it shows you the current position. When you click the Set button for Hook In/Hook Out it will set this position for this point. It appears to work correctly here.
New update on this: You're right. When I stop at the point I want to set a point it's correctly.
But: Since I use RadioBOSS I've never stopped the playback in TrackTool to set an exactly point. Work finde before - but now....... not even more. That's really (!) bad, because not comfortable anymore.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Track Tool save prompt
Post by: bs online on October 13, 2018, 03:48:24 AM
Could you please integrate an additional button to "save changes forever" after editing a Track in Track Tool, and not only "Yes to all" for the current opened session/window?

And: Will you add strings to translation file for that prompt? :P Thank you!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Another missing translation string
Post by: bs online on October 13, 2018, 04:28:25 AM
...if I want to delete a tab.Also the theme isn't applied. (In Track Tool it does.)
I hope you're going well with seperating each of my studies. Should be clearer.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 13, 2018, 04:00:14 PM
Hi Dmitry,
there is a bug in playlist gen pro in this latest beta. It is filtering me because the rating of all the tracks is supposedly "0" and it is not like that. in the previous beta it worked fine.

I have MySQL
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Pretmaker on October 13, 2018, 07:19:52 PM
When saving a preset in the Playlist Generator, the Preset Group text is selected (if you have something at least in there). It looks a bit strange and doesn't make sense to have it selected.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 15, 2018, 06:14:21 AM
You are quite right. Its not happening. I am not able to reproduce the Bug after a number of attempts.
I have since deleted the original event/s that caused the problem, and have started all new events since then.
Therefore I cannot be sure of what else was in the original event that may have been a factor in causing the problem.
OK - if this happens again, please post a screenshot of the affected event.

After setting Intro/Outro (Ramp IN/Ramp OUT) the playlist doesn't display that, like you see on the screenshot attached.
Have to restart RadioBOSS evertime to see changes, or delete the song and add it new to the playlist. (Since Beta. Think this is because the way the TT works now.)
Did you use the Next/Prev buttons to switch to the other tracks?

New update on this: You're right. When I stop at the point I want to set a point it's correctly.
But: Since I use RadioBOSS I've never stopped the playback in TrackTool to set an exactly point. Work finde before - but now....... not even more. That's really (!) bad, because not comfortable anymore.
If I remember correctly, nothing was changes and this is how Track Tool had always worked. Can you please provide the steps top reproduce the issue?

Could you please integrate an additional button to "save changes forever" after editing a Track in Track Tool, and not only "Yes to all" for the current opened session/window?

And: Will you add strings to translation file for that prompt?  Thank you!
In this case, there should be a settings somewhere else to turn off the "Yes for all forever" setting, in case user changes the mind later... I think it should be changed again, please wait for the next version that will offer another solution for this.

...if I want to delete a tab.Also the theme isn't applied. (In Track Tool it does.)
I hope you're going well with seperating each of my studies. Should be clearer.
Themes in RadioBOSS work slightly different (for technical reasons, styling dialogs cause problems so we decided to leave them). The translations for some of the confirmation boxes is what we have planned for the future.

there is a bug in playlist gen pro in this latest beta. It is filtering me because the rating of all the tracks is supposedly "0" and it is not like that. in the previous beta it worked fine.
There were no changes about it between the betas. It appears that at some point the NULL value is being converted to 0 (zero) - will be fixed.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 15, 2018, 06:15:26 AM
When saving a preset in the Playlist Generator, the Preset Group text is selected (if you have something at least in there). It looks a bit strange and doesn't make sense to have it selected.
Thank you - we'll check if it's a bug.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 15, 2018, 07:10:41 AM
Did you use the Next/Prev buttons to switch to the other tracks?
Yes, I did.
Can you please provide the steps top reproduce the issue?
I will try to record a video while doing this - so that you can see it exactly as possible. You'll get a link within the next days. :)
In this case, there should be a settings somewhere else to turn off the "Yes for all forever" setting, in case user changes the mind later... I think it should be changed again, please wait for the next version that will offer another solution for this.
Great! \o/
Themes in RadioBOSS work slightly different (for technical reasons,...
I understand - thanks for explanation.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 15, 2018, 11:09:28 AM
Yes, I did.
This appears to be a bug (it only seems to update the first edited track), will be fixed in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 16, 2018, 08:26:19 PM
Dmitry, is there still a chance that the custom fields would be included in this beta as a filter in autointro?
Thanks
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 17, 2018, 04:15:42 AM
Dmitry, is there still a chance that the custom fields would be included in this beta as a filter in autointro?
Thanks
I don't think so, I'm sorry for that.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Michael G on October 17, 2018, 11:48:08 AM
Would it be possible to move the RECORD VOICETRACK / INSERT VOICETRACK from the main PLAYLIST menu to the right click menu in the playlist?  Right-clicking on a track in the playlist would bring up the option to insert or record a voicetrack.   
Could buttons be placed in the Columns for record and Insert voicetrack as there is already an "insert Stop" feature? 
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 17, 2018, 02:31:42 PM
Would it be possible to move the RECORD VOICETRACK / INSERT VOICETRACK from the main PLAYLIST menu to the right click menu in the playlist?  Right-clicking on a track in the playlist would bring up the option to insert or record a voicetrack.   
Could buttons be placed in the Columns for record and Insert voicetrack as there is already an "insert Stop" feature? 
Thank you for your proposal! Yes, I think it would be possible to add those commands in the columns, but I'm not sure about the right-click menu, as those commands are mostly about the currently selected track, and adding two voice track related commands there doesn't really fit (except for "Insert voice track" maybe).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 18, 2018, 01:09:11 PM
Quote from: celso on October 08, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
Teaser does not work on pre-listening as before, I think it's a bug. Before the function was allowed to give pre-listening teaser, very useful function.
Thank you - will be fixed in the next update.


I also noticed that it is not possible to give pre-listening whatever the streaming address, time announcement  and text to speak.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 18, 2018, 02:37:03 PM
I also noticed that it is not possible to give pre-listening whatever the streaming address, time announcement  and text to speak.
This is fixed in the upcoming 5.8.0.4 update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 18, 2018, 02:42:45 PM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.4 beta

What's new

Download: http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.4.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.4 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 18, 2018, 05:28:56 PM
MAJOR PROBLEM that urgently needs fixing.
with PlayBack "Main On-air Sound Card"
If you were just using "Speakers Out" for your audio, you wouldn't be aware anything was wrong.
But I am using Virtual Audio Cable for sound output.

This first occurred with 5.8.0.3 but after switching sound cards around (about 4 times) and restarting RB and rebooting the computer also, it seemed to come right.

BUT in 5.8.0.4 I cannot rectify it.
Both my computers with RB are doing the same thing.
One computer is completely silent and only uses Virtual Audio Card for its output (tried VB-Audio, but the problem is no different).
The problem is this....Output should only be outputting on VAC Line 3, BUT the same sound is also coming thru on the Speakers (that is BOTH VAC Line 3 and the Speakers at the same time), but to make matters worse its NOT only outputting on the Speakers when it shouldn't be, but is outputting a distorted twin sound, an echoed/delayed output (possibly Speakers and a delayed output via VAC Line 3 causing the echo).
The sound output on VAC Line 3 is exactly as it should be. No distortion delay/echo like the Speakers. And thus VAC line 3 is perfectly usable.

On the silent computer this isn't a problem as there are no speakers plugged in. Its only outputting sound on VAC Line 4, and feeding that output direct into Shoutcast. Bear in mind the problem is most definitely there however should I plug the Speakers in, which should not have any sound coming out of them at all since its on VAC Line 4 for output.

The second computer output is VAC Line 3, but I cannot turn off the Speakers output, and I need the Speakers for other use. As a result I have had to turn RB off on this computer and use a temporary player in lieu.

On both occasions, with 5.8.0.3 and 5.8.0.4 this problem occurred immediately after the upgrade/s.

BTW, both computers are running Windows 7.
 
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 18, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
Quote from: celso on Today at 01:09:11 PM
I also noticed that it is not possible to give pre-listening whatever the streaming address, time announcement  and text to speak.
This is fixed in the upcoming 5.8.0.4 update.

The pre-listening in the time annoucement still does not work.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 18, 2018, 06:10:29 PM
► %nextsong variable added for broadcasting title and HTTP request (next song title)
► Scheduler command to reset "played" track state in playlist (resetplayedstate)

Thank you. Both of these are working perfectly.
Its an absolute joy to see the Playlist now with the new command operative, just so much easier to see visually whats going on. I couldn't believe the difference it made and so much better than being stuck in the "played" state all the time with the one colour scheme.

► Advanced configuration: added an option to enabled precise gap killer and mix point detect for MP3 files (disabled by default as it slows down track launch)

Thank you. This is also working as it should after I changed Advanced Configuration to true.
BUT would this be obvious to a newbie using RB ? There is no indication that if you check the box for Gap Killer, their being another factor involved.

Quote from: DJSTU=Topic=Problems with SAVE and SAVE AS
I am still having problems when I click on SAVE and its coming up as Save As.
This leaves you wondering "Did I click the right button"
But I am positive I have.
This is an intermittent problem, it's not a consistent problem.
Which makes it more mystifying.
I am using .m3u8 suffix.

Would it be possible to add this to the log so there is some sort of record of doing it ?
At the moment it makes it very hard to prove to you what I am doing, for you to see whats happening.
Right now you can only take my word for it.

Maybe the log could show for PLAY....
3.44.16 p.m. Save Button Clicked 19Oct2018
3.44.22 p.m. Playlist saved "Music Oct 2018"19Oct2018

and ditto for SAVE AS
3.44.56 p.m. Save AS Button Clicked 19Oct2018
3.45.11 p.m. Playlist saved AS "Talk FM Oct 2018"19Oct2018

if it can distinguish between the two it might show the error....
3.44.16 p.m. Save Button Clicked 19Oct2018
3.44.22 p.m. Playlist saved AS "Music Oct 2018"19Oct2018

Its just an idea. Maybe you could think of something else ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djcodycoperadio on October 18, 2018, 11:33:54 PM
Are you planning to make the segue editor so that I can move the a track past the beginning of the one before it for? That way if I'm running a sweeper over the ramp of a song I can set it where the words of the song start right after the sweeper even if the ramp is longer then the sweeper.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 19, 2018, 07:08:02 AM
The problem is this....Output should only be outputting on VAC Line 3, BUT the same sound is also coming thru on the Speakers (that is BOTH VAC Line 3 and the Speakers at the same time)
Please make sure that you don't use the "Monitor sound card" that outputs to the same device. It is usually the cause for the echo.
I also suggest to check the VAC settings, e.g. if it's configured to output the sound somewhere.

On both occasions, with 5.8.0.3 and 5.8.0.4 this problem occurred immediately after the upgrade/s.
This looks like a coincidence. You can try installing e.g. RB 5.7.0.2 to see how it performs.

The pre-listening in the time annoucement still does not work.
Sorry for that, will be fixed in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 19, 2018, 07:15:19 AM
BUT would this be obvious to a newbie using RB ? There is no indication that if you check the box for Gap Killer, their being another factor involved.
This only concerns MP3 files and only a subset of them, as in most cases, Gap killer works fine without enabling this feature. Enabling this option significantly slows down long tracks launch (e.g. 1-2 hour mixes) that's why it's disabled by default. This is useful so as our support staff can provide directions on how to fix the problem should anyone ask about it. This is rare, though, this is why it's buried deep in the "Advanced configuration".

This is an intermittent problem, it's not a consistent problem.
Which makes it more mystifying.
When you click the Save button, it checks if the playlist tab has a file name assigned. If it does - then the playlist is saved, no questions asked. If not, it will ask you for a file name - acts as if "Save As" was clicked. The file name for a tab may be reset for multiple reasons e.g. new playlist created.

Are you planning to make the segue editor so that I can move the a track past the beginning of the one before it for? That way if I'm running a sweeper over the ramp of a song I can set it where the words of the song start right after the sweeper even if the ramp is longer then the sweeper.
Currently there are no such plans, as technically this is limited not by the segue editor but by the player engine itself.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 19, 2018, 05:56:14 PM
This looks like a coincidence. You can try installing e.g. RB 5.7.0.2 to see how it performs.

I presume you meant to say version 5.8.0.2 ?
But no matter. I have gone back thru all of them. It turns out there is actually a "coincidence involved here" in regard to installs 3 and 4, as I have now discovered the problem started with 1 (and continued onwards).

I went right back to Ver 5.8.0.0. and when I got back to this version, everything worked just as it should.
The only slight hitch was the main sound card initially was "default" on installing 0, but once I resolved that to VAC Line 3, all was good. There was absolutely no longer any sound issues occurring with the Speakers.

When I install anything after that version the very same sound problems occur.
As a double check after using Ver 5.8.0.0, I reinstalled Ver 5.8.0.1 for a second time, and that is most definitely where the problems begin.

So its Version 5.8.0.1, 2, 3 and 4 that all have this very same condition.

Just why it wasn't occurring when I initially installed 1 and 2, I do not know. For me it only started in 3 (which I somehow resolved) and appeared again majorly without being able to resolve it, in 4.

PS
The clue to this problem appears to be tied in somehow with the Default Sound output.
Change the default sound output and RB follows it.

PPS
WOW..... I have had success. I worked it out, has only taken me a days total of work, but finally got there.

djsoft, this is what you have to fix :

I had the key to fixing it above all along, and just didn't realize I had already worked it out.

This is the workaround :
Change the RB Main Soundcard output to Default, then Save.
Open Options/Playback up again and then change the Main Soundcard output to the one you actually want to use (such as VAC Line 3) and then save again.
These actions stops all sound coming out of the speakers. Finally !!
This procedure worked on both Win computers running RB.

It must be that somehow that the bug is causing the phantom "VAC Line 3" and the phantom "Default Speakers Output" to be both directed towards  the speakers, hence the twin/echo sound.
However the VAC Line 3 (by itself)  is working exactly as it should with no problems in spite of this.
But the slight buffering delay of VAC Line 3 thru the Control Panel and onwards to the Speakers is what was causing the echo.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 19, 2018, 06:09:16 PM
When you click the Save button, it checks if the playlist tab has a file name assigned. If it does - then the playlist is saved, no questions asked. If not, it will ask you for a file name - acts as if "Save As" was clicked. The file name for a tab may be reset for multiple reasons e.g. new playlist created.

The file name never changes and is always in the same location. I will continue to monitor it.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 20, 2018, 04:37:04 AM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.4 beta

What's new
Thank you for that update.
A more improved german translation will also follow during the day. Found some minor UI and translation issues.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Next Track issue still exists
Post by: bs online on October 20, 2018, 08:25:50 AM
Still unfixed:
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 21, 2018, 03:39:22 AM
Change the RB Main Soundcard output to Default, then Save.
Open Options/Playback up again and then change the Main Soundcard output to the one you actually want to use (such as VAC Line 3) and then save again.
These actions stops all sound coming out of the speakers. Finally !!
This procedure worked on both Win computers running RB.
Yes, this can be reproduced here, thank you. It seems that the bug still can not be reproduced here. Can you please post the Playback settings window screenshot?

Still unfixed:
This turned out to be not that simple. According to the internal documentation, it intentionally shows the next track title - however, the docs do not say for what reason :) We'll leave it as it is for now.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: JHON_CABELLOS on October 21, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
NO FUNCIONA LA INTRO AUTOMÁTICA
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 21, 2018, 03:45:41 PM
It seems that the bug still can not be reproduced here. Can you please post the Playback settings window screenshot?

Win 7 is the OS on both computers (1 Pro and the other Ultimate).
When I re-installed Ver 5.8.0.0. the only reason I suspect it worked immediately (in my testing) was because it installed with the Main SoundCard as Default, which I changed to (in this case VAC Line 3) and I did not have the speakers problem.
Each install after that in testing (that is, 1 thru 4) picked up the previous setting and had the very same speakers output problem.

For me the first instance of this problem happening originally was immediately after installing the beta update 5.8.0.3, but I solved it without being able to recollect some days later just how I achieved that when it came to installing the subsequent 5.8.0.4.

BUT in test mode, on re-installing 5.8.0.1 and 5.8.0.2 for the second time, the speakers problem was occurring in both 1 & 2 as well as 3 & 4.
BUT NOTE, this did not happen in the original installs of 1 & 2.
The question is why did things turn sour when I first installed Ver 3 and not earlier in 1 & 2 ?

You will see in the pic that all other sound outputs are turned off.
This is no different from when the problem was occurring, I had all settings off, with only the Main Soundcard operating, in trying to isolate the problem.

PS
Right now the setting is VB Audio Virtual Card. This was due to trying everything to see if I could overcome the problem. So this is not a factor in the problem as I had previously tried this soundcard before and the speakers problem was occurring with it.
Its there simply because when I finally found the solution to the problem, that Virtual Card was the one I had the testing setup revolving around.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 21, 2018, 03:49:27 PM
NO FUNCIONA LA INTRO AUTOMÁTICA

It works yes, the question is the configuration to be made, it has enough variables. The manual gives you an idea of ​​how to do it.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 21, 2018, 03:55:37 PM
This problem only seemed to start after the installation of Ver 5.8.0.4
For some reason it started adding "%nextsong" into the nowplaying text.
The two outputs are coming from the same RadioBoss player.
No 2 stream NowPlaying text is via RadioCaster.
No 4 stream is direct from RB.
Also you will note the nowplaying.txt (stream 2) is actually showing the next track.
The one from RB direct is showing "an event" rather than the next track.
This event being in between the current track and the next track as I look right now.
Its also quite possible the event occurred after the nowplaying.txt file was written to, thus updating more regularly via RB is the the reason for it showing ??
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: unex on October 22, 2018, 04:03:59 AM
if a dj has his show the dj avatar will be shown on our web page. We use the aim value in the stream settings of the broadcasting software to show dj's avatar on our webpage, when the dj connects to the stream. but this wont work with radioboss. we tried to change the metadata encoding type to all different types that are there available in the options. but this wont work. other products such as mairlist, sam broadcaster and my radiomatisme make no problems with this function on our homepage.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: unex on October 22, 2018, 04:07:29 AM
Auto reconnection values in the stream settings of radioboss will be ignored. if i set an auto reconection value in radioboss it will be ignored. it doesnt matter what kind of value i put in there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 22, 2018, 04:28:12 AM
BUT NOTE, this did not happen in the original installs of 1 & 2.
The question is why did things turn sour when I first installed Ver 3 and not earlier in 1 & 2 ?
This is hard to tell, as there are no problems with this here. By the way, in terms of DirectSound driver, there were only changes between RadioBOSS 5.7.2 and 5.8.0.0, then again changed in 5.8.0.1 and stayes that way for all subsequent versions (.2, .3, .4).

Please provide more information on what's not working. I see that you have selected the VAC speakers. Does it work?

Its also quite possible the event occurred after the nowplaying.txt file was written to, thus updating more regularly via RB is the the reason for it showing ??
The %nextsong tag should also work in nowplaying. I suppose the problem here is that you have installed an older version where this tag is not supported, that version created the nowplaying file with the tag instead of actual song name.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 22, 2018, 04:30:47 AM
We use the aim value in the stream settings of the broadcasting software to show dj's avatar on our webpage, when the dj connects to the stream. but this wont work with radioboss.
You can set the AIM value in the settings: http://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/metadata.htm

Auto reconnection values in the stream settings of radioboss will be ignored. if i set an auto reconection value in radioboss it will be ignored. it doesnt matter what kind of value i put in there.
There's another option (Settings->Broadcast) that affects this: "Immediately reconnect when disconnected for the first time". When turned on, the first attempt will be immediate. Subsequent attempts will wait the set timeout period.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: unex on October 22, 2018, 07:10:06 AM
We did the name entry of the dj in the field AIM. But this doesnt work. Please fix the codepage settings there.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 22, 2018, 07:15:36 AM
it intentionally shows the next track title - however, the docs do not say for what reason :) We'll leave it as it is for now.
...but the countdown and bar for intro for next title is also shown when "stop after track" is active.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Atletico on October 22, 2018, 10:50:50 AM
I signed up for the beta license but did not receive a confirmation mail or something. Is this normal?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.4 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 22, 2018, 04:47:16 PM
Please provide more information on what's not working. I see that you have selected the VAC speakers. Does it work?

Yes this does work.... absolutely perfectly. Any of the VAC sound cards will work perfectly. BUT to get them to work by themselves solely and alone, I need to change the main soundcard in RB to "Default" firstly, SAVE and EXIT, and then go back again and change the main soundcard to the VAC line x number that I want to use.
If I don't do this procedure, I have major problems. The Speakers (or VAC Line 1 as per Situation Two) with their twin/echo sound will start running, when they shouldn't be going at all because I haven't chosen them as the output.

The VAC soundcards are not the problem. There is a second soundcard starting up that is the problem. It seems to be associated with whatever is chosen as the Win7 Playback Default Device (not to be confused with the RB default soundcard choice).

I know what is happening is hard to convey to you. So let me try my best to explain.

Situation One
Speakers are the default output chosen as the Win 7 Playback Device.
VAC Line 3 is chosen as the main soundcard in RB (that is NO Speakers involved at all).
The sound comes out of VAC Line 3 and is perfectly usable on-air.
BUT in addition to VAC Line 3 operating, suddenly the Speakers also start up with a twin/echo unwanted sound. They shouldn't have any sound at all.
SO, there are now TWO outputs working as a main soundcard instead of just the one I chose, namely VAC Line 3.

Situation Two
VAC Line 1 is the default output chosen as the Win 7 Playback Device.
VAC Line 3 is chosen as the main soundcard in RB.
The sound comes out of VAC Line 3 and is perfectly usable on-air.
Now the same problems occurs on VAC Line 1 as it did on the Speakers above, a twin/echo un-usable sound.
Note: The sound is NOT coming out of the Speakers this time, the problem sound only appears on VAC Line 1
VAC Line 1 shouldn't have any sound at all.
So even in this situation, RB has TWO outputs working as a main soundcard.

What is the Sound like on Speakers and Line 1
The Speaker Output problem is a combination.... of normal "Speakers output" and additionally a slightly delayed VAC Line 3 sound which after it went thru its buffering/processing, it would be say "half a second" behind.
Ditto for VAC Line 1 except it is silent until you link to it, and thus hear the same problem sound that comes out of the Speakers.

Ver 5.8.0.0. automatically defaulted the main soundcard to default which I subsequently changed. That's why it worked straight away.
Why 1 & 2 worked in my original install and not when in the testing install I do not know. I can't explain that.

This problem has something to do with "Default", namely the Win 7 Playback Default Device, which seems to be a major suspect.

If I don't do the workaround as I explained at the top, I get the Speakers (or VAC Line 1) problem.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8.0.4 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 22, 2018, 09:30:31 PM
The %nextsong tag should also work in nowplaying. I suppose the problem here is that you have installed an older version where this tag is not supported, that version created the nowplaying file with the tag instead of actual song name.

No.... in fact because I found a workaround for solving the sound problem, I am now back to the latest.... Ver 5.8.0.4 again.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on October 23, 2018, 09:39:02 AM
Hello. I have a problem. Last night I had a power cut short and my computer shut down. When I turned on the computer and RadioBOSS started automatically, there was no sound either on the air sound card or on the stream. What should I do? I tried to switch between two cards and did not help.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 23, 2018, 09:39:17 PM
What could be the cause of this error?
The RB test, says ok connection

Generation started.
ERROR! Unable to use database: MySQL server has gone away (2006)
Loading category "Musica"
Category "Musica": loaded 1024 tracks
Tracks after filters applied: 1024
Loading category "----Separadores----"
Category "----Separadores----": loaded 2 tracks
Tracks after filters applied: 2
Loading category "----------Inicio--------"
Category "----------Inicio--------": loaded 2 tracks
Tracks after filters applied: 2
Loading category "----------Fin----------"
Category "----------Fin----------": loaded 2 tracks
Tracks after filters applied: 2
Completed. Duration: 1:01:37
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 24, 2018, 03:14:25 PM
We did the name entry of the dj in the field AIM. But this doesnt work. Please fix the codepage settings there.
Can you please specify what does not work - does it transfer the value to the server? By the way, what server do you use?

...but the countdown and bar for intro for next title is also shown when "stop after track" is active.
You're right - I think that can be fixed.

I signed up for the beta license but did not receive a confirmation mail or something. Is this normal?
Beta tester requests are processed within 48 hours.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 24, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
The VAC soundcards are not the problem. There is a second soundcard starting up that is the problem. It seems to be associated with whatever is chosen as the Win7 Playback Default Device (not to be confused with the RB default soundcard choice).
This does not happen here, tested with Windows 10 and Windows 7. When a specific device is selected in RadioBOSS, it only uses this device (regardless of what the default device in the system is) - there's nothing comes out of the default device that is selected in Windows. If the default device is selected, it only plays on the default device and it also follows the default device change in Windows (that is, when default device in the system is changed, the playback from RadioBOSS will be transferred there). It had never initialized a second device - none of the tests confirmed the problem. The tests were performed in the past on version 5.8.0.3 and performed again on RadioBOSS 5.8.0.4.

No.... in fact because I found a workaround for solving the sound problem, I am now back to the latest.... Ver 5.8.0.4 again.
Does it work as it should?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 24, 2018, 03:40:45 PM
Hello. I have a problem. Last night I had a power cut short and my computer shut down. When I turned on the computer and RadioBOSS started automatically, there was no sound either on the air sound card or on the stream. What should I do? I tried to switch between two cards and did not help.
Are there any error messages in the log? Please make sure the correct main device is selected in playback settings: http://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/playback.htm
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 24, 2018, 03:42:04 PM
ERROR! Unable to use database: MySQL server has gone away (2006)
The reason could be a connection timeout. Did you have Playlist Generator open for some time (like 8+ hours)?
We'll implement a solution to automatically recover from this problem in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 24, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
That's how it was, it was open a whole day  :). Thank you
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 24, 2018, 07:02:28 PM
If the Mute Playlist option is deactivated, would not it be better if it does not appear visible and reduce the size of the form?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 25, 2018, 01:39:32 AM
This does not happen here, tested with Windows 10 and Windows 7

I can only tell you the same problem occurred with two separate computers, both running Win 7.
I can understand that one computer might have a problem due to some issue, and this might in fact be causing a false bug, but two with the very same problem and outcome ?? I'm am finding that very doubtful.

My suggestions to try and locate this problem/bug :
(1) Try updating on a version of RB that doesn't already have the Default main soundcard already in use.
(2) or having had Default main soundcard chosen at some point in the past prior to installing or updating.
(3) Try changing main soundcard to anything other than Default and preferably not Speakers either. Exit RB completely and then restart and install an update.

Prior to eventually finding that creating RB Default solved the problem, I had never chosen RB Default ever before, since I don't use it.
Bear in mind I have spent a whole day of work just finding this solution, it wasn't just a 10 minute job. I kept at it until I found a solution.
The fact that my solution works indicates somewhere somehow there is an underlying problem.

Does it work as it should?

No. I will wait and see what happens in 5.8.0.5
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 26, 2018, 05:54:30 AM
If the Mute Playlist option is deactivated, would not it be better if it does not appear visible and reduce the size of the form?
It would be better, but as this window is small enough already, I think this is not necessary to make it smaller by removing this option when it's disabled. It also reminds you that the mute option exists, in case you wish to use it in the future.

I can understand that 1 computer might have a problem due to an issue, and this might be a false bug, but two with the same problem and outcome ??
This is still possible if those computers share something in common like a piece of software or hardware. If it always played on two devices, the one selected in RadioBOSS and also default in Windows - this is a serious problem and I think we'd seen it here and also received reports from other users. This is not possible to fix something we can't reproduce here, I'm sorry...

Try changing to anything other than Default. Exit RB completely and then restart and install an update.
Installing RadioBOSS updates or downgrades does not really change anything, as the settings are compatible between all versions (both backwards and forward). Closing RadioBOSS completely erases the states of audio devices (from RadioBOSS perspective). When you start it again, it only "knows" what devices are selected now and does not know a thing what the past settings were, the past settings do not affect anything.

No. I will wait and see what happens in 5.8.0.5
There are no changes to %nextsong variable planned for RadioBOSS 5.8.0.5 - so if something's not right now, it's a good time to reveal those issues :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 26, 2018, 02:35:31 PM
There are no changes to %nextsong variable planned for RadioBOSS 5.8.0.5 - so if something's not right now, it's a good time to reveal those issues :)

Yes, for you, but not for me unfortunately.
I have spent too much time on "issues" for the time being, and I need to put more effort into other work.
Now that I know how to solve the RB main soundcard problem myself, I am going to put a hold on updating RB for the meantime, and will come back in six months and see if things have progressed by then.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 26, 2018, 04:08:44 PM
I have spent too much time on "issues" for the time being, and I need to put more effort into other work.
This is what a beta testing is for. The %nextsong feature was added recently and it was not initially planned for this version.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on October 27, 2018, 09:05:04 AM
Hi Dmitry, I would like to suggest that in file types it is also possible to add lists and folders. This is handy so you do not have to keep changing the tracks manually so you would have a choice of random tracks.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 28, 2018, 11:24:25 AM
Hi Dmitry, I would like to suggest that in file types it is also possible to add lists and folders. This is handy so you do not have to keep changing the tracks manually so you would have a choice of random tracks.
Yes, this will be added in one of the next updates, thank you for the suggestion!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: tommyboy on October 28, 2018, 06:55:41 PM
I do not know if it will be radioboss error or bad configuration to connect with the database ...

That is not a radioboss bug. It is something that happened after a update that windows did. Remove and reinstall your audio drivers and the problem will be gone.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on October 28, 2018, 07:12:05 PM
The %nextsong feature was added recently and it was not initially planned for this version.

So we can close the door on this one, I added "%nextsong" back in to metadata today.
Nowplaying.txt only reports Tracks. BUT will add %nextsong into the text.

The built in metadata streaming version is reporting events (like TIME) in lieu of the Next Track. Next Track will appear and then suddenly TIME will appear if its been inserted in the Playlist before that Next Track starts playing.

It is something that happened after a update that windows did.

What version of Windows for the update was that Tommyboy ?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 28, 2018, 08:38:13 PM
Dmitry I am testing the option to use ADS Scheduler remotely.

The option "Create event to update ads automatically" does not work. Actually I realized that the ADS Scheduler configuration is never copied to the target instance.

I guess this is by design. The main problem here is that the remote instance is the one that will always have the configuration of the commercial ones. And this limits that ADS Scheduler always works with the same destination instance.

I believe that this function could have a great potential to manage several instances of RadioBOSS (FM repeaters, located in different geographical points) from a station from a central station, without the use of Teamviewer.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 28, 2018, 09:19:40 PM
Is there any way to eliminate nonexistent files from the database?
In MusicLibrary this function is based using XML files
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 29, 2018, 07:19:10 AM
I added "%nextsong" back in to metadata today.
Nowplaying.txt only reports Tracks. BUT will add %nextsong into the text.
We'll check if it's a bug and it does not process the %nextsong tag properly.

The built in metadata streaming version is reporting events (like TIME) in lieu of the Next Track. Next Track will appear and then suddenly TIME will appear if its been inserted in the Playlist before that Next Track starts playing
It evaluates the next item that will be playing in the playlist, and inserts this into the %nextsong variable.

The option "Create event to update ads automatically" does not work. Actually I realized that the ADS Scheduler configuration is never copied to the target instance.
This is not implemented yet - it's under development now and it will be possible soon to create events to update remote RadioBOSS installations.

And this limits that ADS Scheduler always works with the same destination instance.
You can install multiple RadioBOSS instances and configure ads scheduler in each one to use its own target destination. In the future we'll probably allow exporting to multiple remote destinations, but I will not promise it right now.

Is there any way to eliminate nonexistent files from the database?
In MusicLibrary this function is based using XML files
You can use the Tools->Remove entries for nonexistent tracks command to do so.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 29, 2018, 09:07:01 AM
Quote from: nelson c on October 28, 2018, 11:19:40 PM
Is there any way to eliminate nonexistent files from the database?
In MusicLibrary this function is based using XML files
You can use the Tools->Remove entries for nonexistent tracks command to do so.
The problem is that it only deletes the tracks that are inside an XML.
I refer to deleting tracks from the Database. (Perhaps they were reproduced only once, and then deleted)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 30, 2018, 03:18:38 AM
I refer to deleting tracks from the Database. (Perhaps they were reproduced only once, and then deleted)
If you want to clear the database that stores the additional information, as well as tag cache, use the Tools->Cache cleanup command. This will remove information for nonexistent tracks from the cache2 and tracks tables. The naming of this command is not clear, it will be renamed to "Database cleanup" or something like this, to make its function more clear.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 30, 2018, 07:14:24 AM
Database cleanup
For german translation you can use "Datenbanksäuberung" - I think you can update this string by yourself without an updated file from me. :D
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 30, 2018, 07:24:30 AM
For german translation you can use "Datenbanksäuberung" - I think you can update this string by yourself without an updated file from me.
Yes, thank you!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 30, 2018, 01:38:32 PM
Minor problem:
Every one second the audio bars, the remaining and elapsed time counters freeze for approximately 200 milliseconds.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on October 31, 2018, 07:09:52 AM
Minor problem:
Every one second the audio bars, the remaining and elapsed time counters freeze for approximately 200 milliseconds.
This does no appear to happen here... Have you tried restarting RadioBOSS?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 31, 2018, 09:02:17 AM
Yes, it even happens several Betas ago.
If necessary I can make a video
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on October 31, 2018, 11:55:34 AM
hello. with last version of NVDA, when i walk through playlist items, it anounces wrong names of the tracks. for example: i see track 1,  i press two times the down arrow, and it says track1, when i'm in the track 3. this appens in the version 5.7.2.0. The screen reader anounces bad names, making us believe that the playlist order is constantly changing. sorry but i dont know where i can report it.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 31, 2018, 02:33:19 PM
I think that in the future the graphic part of AutoIntro must be redesigned.
It is necessary to show when a Sweapers is going to be inserted (With a counter of the time remaining to start), what sweapers will be inserted, and give the possibility of manually canceling the insertion.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on October 31, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
Quote from: nelson c on September 23, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
The question is what happens with the .Ini where is the configuration of each commercial. Is it also stored in the chosen folder?
The settings for each advert are stored in .adsettings file, in the folder where the audio file is located.
We did a test. However, after the restart, the commercials added after the freeze were missing. Any ideas?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 31, 2018, 04:34:42 PM
sorry but i dont know where i can report it.
Right place here to report bugs, because new beta is still in development and Dmitry can fix it. :)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: bs online on October 31, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
Could you implement a "Reset colors" / "Farben zurücksetzen" entry?
Also, it's not really possible to apply the default greeen color to a cart again. Maybe you could choose another default cart color for cartwalls (e.g. white)?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 02, 2018, 07:14:02 AM
Yes, it even happens several Betas ago.
If necessary I can make a video
Can you please try it on a fresh installation (to another folder), does it happen there?

hello. with last version of NVDA, when i walk through playlist items, it anounces wrong names of the tracks. for example: i see track 1,  i press two times the down arrow, and it says track1, when i'm in the track 3.
Please try on the latest beta, there were some minor changes to the lists, so it will probable read them correctly.

I think that in the future the graphic part of AutoIntro must be redesigned.
It is necessary to show when a Sweapers is going to be inserted (With a counter of the time remaining to start), what sweapers will be inserted, and give the possibility of manually canceling the insertion.
Thank you for the suggestion, I think this will be possible in one of the future versions.

We did a test. However, after the restart, the commercials added after the freeze were missing. Any ideas?
If a computer was restarted forcefully, then some data may become lost due to drive buffering. Software can't do anything about it -  you can disable write caching for the disk if such restarts/shutdowns happen often.

Could you implement a "Reset colors" / "Farben zurücksetzen" entry?
Also, it's not really possible to apply the default greeen color to a cart again. Maybe you could choose another default cart color for cartwalls (e.g. white)?
The color reset feature will be added in one of the future updates. The default color is custom, and you can easily select it again using the Reset feature.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on November 02, 2018, 11:07:48 AM

Quote from: nelson c on October 31, 2018, 11:02:17 AM
Yes, it even happens several Betas ago.
If necessary I can make a video
Can you please try it on a fresh installation (to another folder), does it happen there?
It is the air pc, so probe installing in another pc, and pass the profile that presents problems to that pc.
There it works correctly. Any idea what it could be? If there is no other option I will perform the test you suggest.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 02, 2018, 01:25:43 PM
There it works correctly. Any idea what it could be?
Honestly, no idea. Do you have any 3rd party DSP plugins running in RadioBOSS? What other features are active, e.g. stream archive, how many broadcasting encoders, how many tracks in the playlist?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 03, 2018, 09:41:57 AM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.5 RC

What's new
Download: http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.5.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on November 04, 2018, 04:00:32 PM
Fixed: %nextsong variable sometimes didn't work

Unfortunately the fix to %nextsong has solved one problem, but created another.
In nowplaying.txt it is now putting the song in twice.

(https://www.djsoft.net/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5601.0;attach=9293)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 05, 2018, 06:01:02 AM
In nowplaying.txt it is now putting the song in twice.
It appears that you use the %nextsong tag in stream format and also enabled the "Include next track info in nowplaying" option (Settings->Reports), that's why the next song title is listed twice.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: andres on November 06, 2018, 05:56:06 AM


hello I would like to try the new beta version
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Happysound on November 06, 2018, 01:22:24 PM


hello I would like to try the new beta version

License key:
If you're a registered user and your update subscription is not expired, please use your key.

To request the free beta tester license key, please fill this form: https://www.djsoft.net/enu/beta.htm
The free key expires December 15, 2018.


Download
RadioBOSS 5.8 beta: http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.5.exe (11/3/2018, 30Mb)
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Michael G on November 07, 2018, 06:35:07 AM
I think that in the future the graphic part of AutoIntro must be redesigned.
It is necessary to show when a Sweapers is going to be inserted (With a counter of the time remaining to start), what sweapers will be inserted, and give the possibility of manually canceling the insertion.
I agree.  There have been times the AI has caught a few of us out.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Michael G on November 07, 2018, 06:40:49 AM
I would really like to see the voicetracking feature include a segue editor so that we are able to audition the outro and Intro and hear it whilst recording the VT.  The option to edit the audio this way would be welcomed.  I have seen and used this in other playout systems and believe it would add enormous value to RadioBoss in the future
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 07, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
I agree.  There have been times the AI has caught a few of us out.
The feature initially was designed to be used in unattended mode, that's why the UI does not indicate about the upcoming Auto Intro insertion. This will be improved in the future.

I would really like to see the voicetracking feature include a segue editor so that we are able to audition the outro and Intro and hear it whilst recording the VT.  The option to edit the audio this way would be welcomed.  I have seen and used this in other playout systems and believe it would add enormous value to RadioBoss in the future
Thank you for the suggestion! We plan on reworking the Segue Editor - it will include the ability to record and prelisten voicetracks, amongst other new features.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Michael G on November 07, 2018, 01:54:41 PM
Thank you for the suggestion! We plan on reworking the Segue Editor - it will include the ability to record and prelisten voicetracks, amongst other new features.
Now that is music to my ears :) Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta] - Track Tool again
Post by: bs online on November 10, 2018, 10:27:52 AM
I can't drag'n'drop that indicator, and finally there's no option to move this back to the start to 0:00:00.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 10, 2018, 02:07:57 PM
I can't drag'n'drop that indicator, and finally there's no option to move this back to the start to 0:00:00.
Currently dragging it is not supported, you can only click at a new position to move it. It also supports Home and End keys to move it to the beginning and end, respectively.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 12, 2018, 10:10:47 AM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.6 RC

What's new
Download: http://dl.djsoft.net/beta/radioboss_beta_5.8.0.6.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: fmba on November 13, 2018, 09:40:05 AM
Algunas cuestiones para TENER EN CUENTA:
1- AGREGAR POSIBILIDAD de que cuando agregas una URL de STREAM, si al momento de reproducirla NO la encuentra activa, pase al proximo tema del PLAYLIST y luego vuelva a INTENTAR tomar la URL STREAM y asi dar opcion de 1 o varias veces.
2- OPCION DE HORA TEMPERATURA y HUMEDAD, que sea FACIL como en ZARA RADIO.
3- ORDEN DE PRIORIDADES PARA EVENTOS SUPERPUESTOS EN LA MISMA HORA/MINUTOS. Ej. TANDA de la HORA, enlace de URL STREAM, Carga de programa o Lista de reproduccion, etc.
4-Traer INTEGRADOS PLUGINS (aoparte del EQ y Compressor) por Ej. TOMAS LIMITER, o Sound Solution 1.3 (que son LIBRES y GRATUITOS) y COMPATIBILIDAD con Windows 10.
5- POSIBILIDAD de poner en un MISMO EVENTO distintos DIAS y HORARIOS. Ej. Un programa que se emite el SABADO a las 10 y 18 hs, pero... el DOMINGO solo a las 18 u otr hora.

MUCHAS GRACIAS!!! Gari Ramos By. FM BUENOS AIRES 89.7 URUGUAY.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 13, 2018, 12:55:11 PM
Can you please write in English so everyone could understand?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 14, 2018, 07:00:25 AM
When I have ad scheduler events running, if the "Do not action this event when playlist is stopped" checkbox is selected, then the ads do not get added to the playlist, and a message comes up in the log file that says

"Do not action event when the playlist is stopped" flag is enabled.

I can understand this function, however previously, I believe that the ads would go into the playlist, but they would not start.

Otherwise, how can I get this functionality back? It seems different since 5.7.0.2.

I'd basically like the ads to be scheduled into the playlist, enqueued, ready for action when the presenter presses play. Currently if the playlist is stopped, it starts playing the ads immediately, if 'Do not action event when the playlist is stopped' is unchecked.



Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 15, 2018, 05:35:04 AM
I can understand this function, however previously, I believe that the ads would go into the playlist, but they would not start.
This was changed in this version, and now events do not action at all when the playlist is stopped. Do you think we should add an option to control what this function does?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: ubmchicago on November 15, 2018, 05:41:02 AM
TRANSLATING (we hope) for user "fmba" from Uruguay"

Some issues to BEAR IN MIND:

1- ADD POSSIBILITY that when you add a STREAM URL, if at the moment of reproducing it it is NOT active, go to the next PLAYLIST theme and then try again to take the STREAM URL and thus give option of 1 or several times.

2- TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY HOUR OPTION, that is EASY as in ZARA RADIO.

3- ORDER OF PRIORITIES FOR SUPERIMPOSED EVENTS IN THE SAME TIME / MINUTES. Eg TUNING of the TIME, URL link STREAM, Loading program or Playlist, etc.

4-Bring INTEGRATED PLUGINS (a pair of the EQ and Compressor) eg TOMAS LIMITER, or Sound Solution 1.3 (which are FREE and FREE) and COMPATIBILITY with Windows 10.

5- POSSIBILITY to put in a SAME EVENT different DAYS and SCHEDULES. Eg A program that is broadcast on SATURDAY at 10 and 6 pm, but ... on SUNDAY only at 18 or another hour.

THANK YOU!!! Gari Ramos By. FM BUENOS AIRES 89.7 URUGUAY.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 15, 2018, 10:49:57 AM
This was changed in this version, and now events do not action at all when the playlist is stopped. Do you think we should add an option to control what this function does?

Yes, this would be fairly impactful on us. We currently have 3 breaks per hour, 19th minute, 39th minute, 59th minute, where scheduled events come in (sponsors, news etc.). This gives our presenters around 1 minute to be able to back announce, wind up etc. prior to pressing play on the scheduled announcements. It is also useful when automation is in place, so our scheduled breaks inject themselves, then the automation continues.

Some of our presenters use other systems, and only use RadioBOSS for the sponsored breaks. As it is currently, the sponsored breaks would start immediately and likely interfere with music or other sources of audio as soon as the 19th/39th/59th minute hit.

For us we'd want the functionality of the scheduled breaks populating the playlist, but not starting immediately if the playlist is stopped. If the playlist is already running, then it can insert itself as it did in 5.7.0.2 and that would suit us.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on November 15, 2018, 04:14:47 PM
This was changed in this version, and now events do not action at all when the playlist is stopped. Do you think we should add an option to control what this function does?

The fact that it inserts into the Playlist is not the problem. There should be an overall policy that governs this, not just an exception for any one event.

It has always struck me as VERY strange that events (any) for some reason beyond me, start the Playlist playing, when the intent of the event itself is not to do that.
There should be a distinction between activating events and non-activating events.
For instance START PLAY is an activating event. PLAY TRACK is an activating event. Whereas INSERT TIME is not an activating event. INSERT ADS is not an activating event.
The distinction should be :
(a) Is this an event which requires the Playlist to start on-air audio, or even just for the Event itself to start on-air audio (which (to my mind) should stop once that particular audio is played), like Play Track for example.
(b) OR is it an event that requires insertion BUT NOT starting on-air audio.

This needs to be outside of the choice of "Do not insert event when the Playlist is Stopped" as obviously when that box is ticked, nothing happens with the event.

Maybe choices are needed as follows :
(a) Box to "Continue Playlist when the Event has Finished" giving the possibility of the event being standalone or not as the case maybe. This could be ticked by Default ?
(b) Box which says "Insert as Non Playlist Activating Event".
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 16, 2018, 03:26:10 AM
1- ADD POSSIBILITY that when you add a STREAM URL, if at the moment of reproducing it it is NOT active, go to the next PLAYLIST theme and then try again to take the STREAM URL and thus give option of 1 or several times.
I suggest using the new Relay feature for this: http://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/relaying.htm
It will play a network stream, going to playlist when the stream is unavailable, and back to stream when it's active.

2- TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY HOUR OPTION, that is EASY as in ZARA RADIO.
Can you please provide more information on what should it do?

3- ORDER OF PRIORITIES FOR SUPERIMPOSED EVENTS IN THE SAME TIME / MINUTES. Eg TUNING of the TIME, URL link STREAM, Loading program or Playlist, etc.
You can order events by assigning them a different time, e.g.
12:00:00 - first event
12:00:01 - next event, will be queued after the first event and so on

4-Bring INTEGRATED PLUGINS (a pair of the EQ and Compressor) eg TOMAS LIMITER, or Sound Solution 1.3 (which are FREE and FREE) and COMPATIBILITY with Windows 10.
RadioBOSS supports VST and Winamp DSP plugins, this should allow you to use the plugins you mentioned.

5- POSSIBILITY to put in a SAME EVENT different DAYS and SCHEDULES. Eg A program that is broadcast on SATURDAY at 10 and 6 pm, but ... on SUNDAY only at 18 or another hour.
Thank you for the suggestion - this feature will appear in one of the next updates.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 16, 2018, 03:41:02 AM
For us we'd want the functionality of the scheduled breaks populating the playlist, but not starting immediately if the playlist is stopped. If the playlist is already running, then it can insert itself as it did in 5.7.0.2 and that would suit us.
Thank you for the detailed description. A configuration option will be added to make it work how it was before.

It has always struck me as VERY strange that events (any) for some reason beyond me, start the Playlist playing, when the intent of the event itself is not to do that.
This is due to the nature of the events in RadioBOSS: you schedule a certain item to play at certain time. It doesn't matter if the playlist is playing or not already. It will play the scheduled item.

The concept of making events "non-activating" is interesting. The danger here is that there are already lots of options for events :)

For now, I think a global configuration would suffice, to control what the "Do not action if the playlist is stopped" option does:
- insert but do not play - the pre-RadioBOSS 5.8 behavior;
- do not action event at all - the current behavior, that turned out to break some existing installations; but will be the default from now on, it's what User Manual says it supposed to do.

(a) Box to "Continue Playlist when the Event has Finished" giving the possibility of the event being standalone or not as the case maybe. This could be ticked by Default ?
You can make it play only this event using the "Overlay playback" option.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 16, 2018, 05:07:13 AM
For now, I think a global configuration would suffice, to control what the "Do not action if the playlist is stopped" option does:
- insert but do not play - the pre-RadioBOSS 5.8 behavior;
- do not action event at all - the current behavior, that turned out to break some existing installations; but will be the default from now on, it's what User Manual says it supposed to do.

That would work for us
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 17, 2018, 02:47:06 AM
Feature request: Ability to lock down cart walls on an individual basis.

Currently we have a 'STATION CARTS' (which we don't want adjusted) and a 'PERSONAL CARTS' screen which we don't mind if the presenters edit.

If possible, an option could be added per cart wall to tick a 'Locked' box or something like that - that way if the 'edit cart wall' option is unticked in the user settings, they can't edit the cart wall screen. Or if it's been 'unlocked', then they can edit them.

This isn't a imminent request, just something to suggest for the future.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 18, 2018, 02:13:57 AM
If possible, an option could be added per cart wall to tick a 'Locked' box or something like that - that way if the 'edit cart wall' option is unticked in the user settings, they can't edit the cart wall screen. Or if it's been 'unlocked', then they can edit them.
Thank you for the feature request, this will be added in one of the next updates.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 19, 2018, 06:10:44 AM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.7 release

Changes
- Minor bugs fixed

Download: http://dl2.djsoft.net/radioboss_setup_5.8.0.7.exe
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 19, 2018, 09:05:39 AM
RadioBOSS 5.8.0.7 release

Changes
- Minor bugs fixed

Can confirm, advanced setting 'Events - Lagacy bahavior for "Do not action event when playlist is stopped" option' works.

Just minor spelling adjustments - "Legacy" and "Behavior"

Thanks for putting the setting back.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 19, 2018, 09:26:26 AM
Minor bug:
'On Air' section has a red line that goes across to show the currently playing part of the track. If 'Stop' is pressed, the bars disappear from the 'On Air' section, and the red line holds in place. If 'Stop' is pressed again, then the line disappears.

Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 19, 2018, 09:36:23 AM
Question:

When an MP3 is played in RadioBOSS now, RadioBOSS is modifying the MP3 file itself (the 'date modified' is changed).

What is happening to the MP3 to cause the update to take place? Is there any way to stop this from taking place?

The reason I ask is, we have a script which mirrors our main RadioBOSS system in our control room, and copies any changed files into the studios we have. This is triggered on a file being modified.

The script used is made in-house, so if it is no longer possible to prevent RadioBOSS updating the MP3 files themselves, please advise, and I'll look into alternative synchronisation arrangements.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 20, 2018, 02:55:52 AM
Can confirm, advanced setting 'Events - Lagacy bahavior for "Do not action event when playlist is stopped" option' works.

Just minor spelling adjustments - "Legacy" and "Behavior"
Thank you - I'm glad this works, and sorry for those typos, the feature was added in a hurry, it's release time :)

Minor bug:
'On Air' section has a red line that goes across to show the currently playing part of the track. If 'Stop' is pressed, the bars disappear from the 'On Air' section, and the red line holds in place. If 'Stop' is pressed again, then the line disappears.
It appears to be a bug, will be fixed in one of the next update.

When an MP3 is played in RadioBOSS now, RadioBOSS is modifying the MP3 file itself (the 'date modified' is changed).
Yes, it updates the playcount and last played tags in the file (stored in the APEv2 tag).

What is happening to the MP3 to cause the update to take place? Is there any way to stop this from taking place?
You can switch to store additional information outside of mp3 files in a database (this is hassle free, no complicated server setup, switching to SQLite is merely two clicks in settings window). Please see this page for more information about this: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/additional-information-storage.htm

If you decide to use the database, I also advice to enable tag caching to significantly improve performance: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/tag-cache.htm
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 20, 2018, 07:50:18 AM
You can switch to store additional information outside of mp3 files in a database (this is hassle free, no complicated server setup, switching to SQLite is merely two clicks in settings window). Please see this page for more information about this: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/additional-information-storage.htm

Been using RadioBOSS for a fair while now and here I am learning new things still! Thank you, that fixed our issue.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 20, 2018, 02:03:54 PM
Been using RadioBOSS for a fair while now and here I am learning new things still! Thank you, that fixed our issue.
I'm glad it worked! While it's mentioned in the user manual, I'd still like to note that when using a database the music files (or folders where the files are located) can't be renamed, as it will lead to a loss of additional information.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on November 21, 2018, 11:40:32 AM
Thanks will keep that in mind.

New Bug:
Sometimes, the cart wall font (settings > view > cart wall font) does not always appear as it should. For example, Tahoma 'bold' only comes up Tahoma. Same with italics, bold italics etc.

Sizing seems okay, just bold/italics doesn't always appear.

Also - when loading cart wall, if it had an old font before, it will import the old font into the cart wall. This can lead to inconsistencies when multiple cart walls are in use. It appears to resolve itself if the cart wall font setting is set again.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on November 21, 2018, 05:12:24 PM
I have a problem. I decided to buy the Stereo tool. I have a basic license plus decliner. When screen reader mode is turned on, it can not be registered. I did the registration through the web interface but only when I turned off the screen reader mode. I also tried to run a song request script via the dynamic dns. When active screen reader mode RadioBoss is not responding. When I turn it on, RadioBoss responds neatly when I enter rbserver: port in the adressbar. I do not have so much trouble with the song request script because it can not be used because of closed ports on the site. The bigger the problem is that my StereoTool license comes down when I turn on Screen reader mode.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 22, 2018, 06:55:20 AM
Sometimes, the cart wall font (settings > view > cart wall font) does not always appear as it should. For example, Tahoma 'bold' only comes up Tahoma. Same with italics, bold italics etc.

Sizing seems okay, just bold/italics doesn't always appear.

Also - when loading cart wall, if it had an old font before, it will import the old font into the cart wall. This can lead to inconsistencies when multiple cart walls are in use. It appears to resolve itself if the cart wall font setting is set again.
Thank you, we'll address those issues in the next update.

The bigger the problem is that my StereoTool license comes down when I turn on Screen reader mode.
This is a problem we can't solve from here, as StereoTool is a 3rd party software and we don't have control over how it operates. We can disable the accessible VST mode when screen reader mode is active, as I suppose the accessible VST mode does not always work as it supposed to.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on November 22, 2018, 07:37:33 AM
Yes, it would be good to have accessible vst mode when active screen reader mode is enabled or disabled if necessary. That is good for you if you have someone with you who does not have a problem with seeing that he can check his options. It would be a good idea to check if I'm right that RadioBOSS can not go online when the screen reader mode is active. Perhaps StereoTool is unable to communicate with its license server and therefore the license down.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 24, 2018, 06:13:10 AM
Yes, it would be good to have accessible vst mode when active screen reader mode is enabled or disabled if necessary.
We'll add this option in one of the future updates.

check if I'm right that RadioBOSS can not go online when the screen reader mode is active. Perhaps StereoTool is unable to communicate with its license server and therefore the license down.
RadioBOSS itself is not affected by screen reader mode. Any other software may or may not be affected by it - I can't say if StereoTool has any problems with it. You can consider running it in a stand alone mode with virtual audio cards to make it run independently from RadioBOSS.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on November 24, 2018, 04:07:22 PM
hello! i have two questions:

1. is it possible to receive and answer this forum via e-mail, or receive notifications when someone answers me?
the another question is: where i can control the jingles volume, when the option same as the main soundcard is selected in options? i control the volume in the slider, but if i play jingles with numbers, the volume is not afected. and, if i uncheck the option same soundcard, the equalizer dont afect jingles. sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 26, 2018, 10:12:55 AM
is it possible to receive and answer this forum via e-mail, or receive notifications when someone answers me?
You can click the Notify button (it's located at the top and bottom of the posts list) to subscribe to certain forum topics to get notified when a new answer is posted there.

where i can control the jingles volume, when the option same as the main soundcard is selected in options?
The jingles are always played at full volume. But you can create file type for a jingle and modify its playback level setting: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/using_different_types_of_files.htm
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on November 27, 2018, 02:42:09 PM
Hello Dmitry,
I am using PlayList Generator Pro in network, with MySQL (With tag cache).
However, I am looking at a very large transfer. (It seems to be analyzing the files).
There may be a problem?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on November 28, 2018, 06:44:02 AM
I am using PlayList Generator Pro in network, with MySQL (With tag cache).
However, I am looking at a very large transfer. (It seems to be analyzing the files).
There may be a problem?
I'm not sure, it could be database requests, as it will make a request for every file. It should not read the files as all the information it needs is in the database, but we'll check if there's a bug and it still reads the files for some reason.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on November 28, 2018, 09:02:45 AM
Great thanks. It was about 10 minutes with that transfer. I think it's too long for simple SQL queries.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on November 29, 2018, 07:44:23 AM
hello again! i'm with annother question: how i can, for example in a playlist, check a certain song as the next song? in older versions, i press applications key, and this option is there. but, i cant see thes option anymore. the option that i see, is something like move to the current playing song. but i  dont want to change the playlist order, but choose the next song to play, but after this song, the playlist returns its  normal order. Can you implement this again, or if this function exists, make it accessible for screen readers?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 01, 2018, 12:34:48 PM
Great thanks. It was about 10 minutes with that transfer. I think it's too long for simple SQL queries.
Depending on how many tracks there are - it makes two requests for every track. But still, it looks too much.

how i can, for example in a playlist, check a certain song as the next song? in older versions, i press applications key, and this option is there
It's still there - called "Add to playback queue" (in older version is was called "Set as next track"). Queue is a more advanced as it allows to set a queue of next tracks.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on December 08, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Hello Dmitry,
Today we happened to start the pc with the drive where the music is. (Intentionally).
What we did not take into account is that RadioBOSS opened and tried to play all the tracks that were on the list. (At that time they were nonexistent)
The problem was that the intro points and the rating were deleted from the MySQL database.
It will be a very tedious task to mark everything again.
My request is: to add in the RB BackUp a script of the database for these cases.

Thanks
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 10, 2018, 01:38:36 AM
What we did not take into account is that RadioBOSS opened and tried to play all the tracks that were on the list. (At that time they were nonexistent)
Interesting, how did that happen? Files were located on a network drive that was disconnected?

My request is: to add in the RB BackUp a script of the database for these cases.
While there's no such a feature, you can use the mysql tools to perform a backup (those are installed with the database). In one of the next update it will be possible to create a backup from within RadioBOSS.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on December 12, 2018, 12:20:00 PM
Interesting, how did that happen? Files were located on a network drive that was disconnected?
A failure in the storage unit.
There is a backup of all the tracks, but the introduction of the tracks that were on the list was lost. (When RB try to play) :(


While there's no such a feature, you can use the mysql tools to perform a backup (those are installed with the database). In one of the next update it will be possible to create a backup from within RadioBOSS.
It is great news. I would like it to be executed as a scheduler task.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 13, 2018, 09:06:38 AM
There is a backup of all the tracks, but the introduction of the tracks that were on the list was lost. (When RB try to play)
This shouldn't be happening, as it does not remove the record from database when a file does not exist...

It is great news. I would like it to be executed as a scheduler task.
Yes, a scheduler command will be added too.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on December 13, 2018, 09:57:31 AM
This shouldn't be happening, as it does not remove the record from database when a file does not exist...
Then I do not understand why, but the points are not intro in those tracks.

The record is not deleted from either of the two tables if the file does not exist?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on December 13, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
RB generated this error. I think the SQL server was stopped.

Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 14, 2018, 06:02:39 AM
RB generated this error. I think the SQL server was stopped.
This is a bug in RadioBOSS 5.8 when it processes log files, will be fixed shortly in the upcoming RadioBOSS 5.8.1 update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: DJSTU on December 15, 2018, 07:04:33 PM
Playlist. "Extract Artist/Title from FileName"
I would like this if possible to be a "One Click" operation, that is, it not only extracts the information, but also just automatically saves it.
Does this style of operation already exist in RB (that I may not be aware of), or would it have to be created ?
Somewhere perhaps a button to just click in the area of the attached Pic ?
or perhaps :
"Extract Artist/Title from FileName & Save"
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 18, 2018, 04:28:00 AM
RadioBOSS extracts artist/title from the file name when it broadcasts and in the Music Library it will auto-fill the fields when you edit tags. I'll see if the same can be done for the Tag Editor in RadioBOSS.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on December 19, 2018, 01:03:23 PM
This shouldn't be happening, as it does not remove the record from database when a file does not exist...
Maybe the intro and playcount fields are blanked?
Again, we lost data again.
For maintenance tasks, the air pc was added without the music unit, and RadioBOSS was automatically executed when the PC was opened, causing this problem.
Luckily we had a backup of MySQL, but this is quite annoying.
Maybe it would be a good idea not to modify the database if the unit is not found of the track that you are trying to play.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 19, 2018, 02:03:30 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea not to modify the database if the unit is not found of the track that you are trying to play.
It should work like this, it's in the bug list for the next update (5.8.2). Meanwhile I suggest creating additional Windows user for maintenance purposes, where RadioBOSS does not start automatically.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on December 22, 2018, 10:58:12 AM
Hello,
I'd like to suggest a new feature, quick jingles pages.
How would it work?
in the jingle assignment options, we would have a list to select the page on which we wanted to work.
then we could assign the jingles. It would be 9 pages, each with 9 slots for jingles.
would be easily switched with the control key. if I pressed, for example control + 2, the program would assume the second page of jingles. It would be easier to work, when the same announcer makes several programs, or there are more than 9 quick jingles that need to be played.
Thank you!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on December 22, 2018, 12:38:25 PM
Hello,
I'd like to suggest a new feature, quick jingles pages.
How would it work?
in the jingle assignment options, we would have a list to select the page on which we wanted to work.
then we could assign the jingles. It would be 9 pages, each with 9 slots for jingles.
would be easily switched with the control key. if I pressed, for example control + 2, the program would assume the second page of jingles. It would be easier to work, when the same announcer makes several programs, or there are more than 9 quick jingles that need to be played.
Thank you!


You can do better than this in the entry Cart Wall with many more resources including saving the pages etc. In fact, when I used ZaraRadio I had this feature but I did not have a ZaraRadio entry cart wall. I think this feature is not useful on RadioBoss, since it has something as advanced as its own Cart Wall
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on December 22, 2018, 01:02:08 PM
I would like the same feature that is present when I add a track list in the playlist to bypass the replay protection, also be present in the ad programmer where I enter the intro and end of block, since it is something we use frequently. As it is not ideal, it is essential that we can enable or disable this feature, in this case this option and has already marked ignore protection, which is not correct.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on December 22, 2018, 01:39:42 PM
Hello,
I'd like to suggest a new feature, quick jingles pages.
How would it work?
in the jingle assignment options, we would have a list to select the page on which we wanted to work.
then we could assign the jingles. It would be 9 pages, each with 9 slots for jingles.
would be easily switched with the control key. if I pressed, for example control + 2, the program would assume the second page of jingles. It would be easier to work, when the same announcer makes several programs, or there are more than 9 quick jingles that need to be played.
Thank you!


You can do better than this in the entry Cart Wall with many more resources including saving the pages etc. In fact, when I used ZaraRadio I had this feature but I did not have a ZaraRadio entry cart wall. I think this feature is not useful on RadioBoss, since it has something as advanced as its own Cart Wall
This cart wall is accessible? how i can use this with screen readers?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 24, 2018, 02:58:36 AM
This cart wall is accessible? how i can use this with screen readers?
Currently it is not accessible, I'm sorry - we have it on our to-do list.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: armibal1980 on December 24, 2018, 11:13:34 AM
They forgive me, I do not know if this function is in RadioBoss, I would like them to add the case of not having it, such as centova cast, which can be interleaved between list by priority, for example, in centova it has from 1 to 20 to reproduce more or less between lists, it would be nice to know that this, someone can comment ... excuses for English

Thanks!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 26, 2018, 02:07:47 AM
It uses a totally different method of selecting tracks, if you want tracks from one folder play more often than from another, you can use build the rotation like this:
(Track List) Folder 1
(Track List) Folder 2
(Track List) Folder 2

Here, tracks from "Folder 1" will be selected 33% of times (1/3), and from "Folder 2" 67% of times (2/3).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: armibal1980 on December 26, 2018, 11:36:22 AM
I wanted to say between playlist, is it the same?

Thanks!
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on December 29, 2018, 06:02:53 AM
I wanted to say between playlist, is it the same?
You can select random tracks from the playlists as well. More information about the Track List feature: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/using_track_list.htm
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: ubmchicago on January 05, 2019, 07:48:50 AM
Here is a feature that I would like to see added: the ability to specify which days/times in checkbox grid format a scheduled event can run. Sort of what the Ad Scheduler does, but for actual playlist events. Can we get something like this for the next round of beta?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: SertanejaPop on January 05, 2019, 04:09:04 PM
It would be nice to close the log tab, this might be good to keep the look cleaner. Do not you think that's good?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: celso on January 07, 2019, 05:48:31 AM
It would be nice to close the log tab, this might be good to keep the look cleaner. Do not you think that's good?

I think this is good and I add an option to open the log in the additional windows as it is done in the playlist, cart wall ..., so we have a range of better options to view the log.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on January 08, 2019, 06:56:17 AM
Here is a feature that I would like to see added: the ability to specify which days/times in checkbox grid format a scheduled event can run. Sort of what the Ad Scheduler does, but for actual playlist events.
We plan on adding a "multiple start times" feature in one of the next updates (currently planned for RB 5.9).

It would be nice to close the log tab, this might be good to keep the look cleaner. Do not you think that's good?
The main reason why Log is currently always stays visible (except for cases when you hide the left part of the window) is that RadioBOSS does not usually show popup error messages. Instead, those are displayed in the log and when something goes wrong, you see the reason - but if the log is not visible, the error is not seen completely.
You can resize the log to have the minimum height.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on January 10, 2019, 07:50:24 AM
jingles assignment problem.
Hello, as you know, I use screen readers, that is. I use the accessible mode.
I don't know if it's a radio boss bug that happens for everyone, or just me, but for everyone who uses screen readers, it happens.
I'll assign jingles, and when I click the assign button and choose the file, the radio boss loses focus, I have to press alt tab for focusing again the radio boss window, and then continue assigning the gingles. This happens when I click the open button in the choose file dialog.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on January 10, 2019, 02:12:18 PM
I'll assign jingles, and when I click the assign button and choose the file, the radio boss loses focus
Yes, a quick test confirmed the problem, we'll fix it in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: southernfm on January 25, 2019, 11:29:53 AM
When using the RadioBOSS application to perform the update in RadioBOSS Advanced, if the user logged in doesn't have permission to close RadioBOSS, then it shows the permission denied prompt, and leaves RadioBOSS open during the installation procedure. This leads to the installation not being able to continue as RadioBOSS is still open.

It is a minor inconvenience that can be worked around fairly easily, but I'd imagine if the 'Automatically check for updates' selection is on, then the application should allow for itself to be updated (e.g. if an admin wanted the user not to be able to update, they would untick that option'.

Alternatively - it should prompt to say an admin user (or user with 'close application permission') needs to be logged into RadioBOSS Advanced in order for the installation to continue.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on January 26, 2019, 09:49:23 AM
Alternatively - it should prompt to say an admin user (or user with 'close application permission') needs to be logged into RadioBOSS Advanced in order for the installation to continue.
This appears to be a good solution for this case. Noted for the future versions.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Sasa Grbic on January 27, 2019, 10:57:12 AM
Hello. When I open the check update help menu if there is a new version of the software, the NVDA Screen reader reads that there is a new version of the software, but it is not possible to click on the install button to complete the update. I have to go manually downloading and installing RadioBOSS. Does this need or is it a bug in accessibility?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on January 27, 2019, 04:22:57 PM
This is a bug - the Install link can't be focused, therefore is only accessible when using a mouse. Will be fixed in the next update.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on March 01, 2019, 04:06:43 PM
Hello Dmitry:
It will be possible to add as an identifier of a file type to the customizable fields?

Thank you
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 02, 2019, 04:13:41 AM
It will be possible to add as an identifier of a file type to the customizable fields?
There is already such a field, it's assigned when you select "File type" in Track tool or in other places.

Another thing is that we plan on adding a tag system for files, and those tags can be used for file types too.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: pety on March 02, 2019, 05:15:32 AM
... and those tags can be used for file types too.
Awesome !
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on March 02, 2019, 08:35:31 AM
It will be possible to add as an identifier of a file type to the customizable fields?
There is already such a field, it's assigned when you select "File type" in Track tool or in other places.
This request is born because I need to establish a file type from the API.
I know about tracktool, but this tag is not available from the readtag and writetag commands. Will it be possible to add it?
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Another thing is that we plan on adding a tag system for files, and those tags can be used for file types too.
Sounds interesting. A kind of Mp3Tag?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 04, 2019, 10:31:25 AM
Sounds interesting. A kind of Mp3Tag?
It's like categories, where you can assign one or more categories, or tags, to a track. Like "Track A" belongs to categories "Rock", "90s". IIRC, this is what you have proposed some time ago and currently it's planned for RadioBOSS 5.9 (late 2019).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on March 05, 2019, 05:16:29 PM
Sounds interesting. A kind of Mp3Tag?
It's like categories, where you can assign one or more categories, or tags, to a track. Like "Track A" belongs to categories "Rock", "90s". IIRC, this is what you have proposed some time ago and currently it's planned for RadioBOSS 5.9 (late 2019).
Great news.
I wonder if the development of RB now will be slower.
We were customary to two versions per year  :(


Quote from: nelson c on March 01, 2019, 06:06:43 PM
It will be possible to add as an identifier of a file type to the customizable fields?
There is already such a field, it's assigned when you select "File type" in Track tool or in other places.
This request is born because I need to establish a file type from the API.
I know about tracktool, but this tag is not available from the readtag and writetag commands. Will it be possible to add it?
I think he forgot about this
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 06, 2019, 06:31:12 AM
I wonder if the development of RB now will be slower.
We were customary to two versions per year 
This year there will be several minor updates, 5.8.x, this is to improve overall software quality.

I know about tracktool, but this tag is not available from the readtag and writetag commands. Will it be possible to add it?
Yes, this will be added in 5.8.4.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Over-Da-Edge-Radio on March 08, 2019, 04:33:51 PM
Can altering the info of a, Audio file be saved if not will this be added? Such as finding info from a data base for the music?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 09, 2019, 05:24:11 AM
Can altering the info of a, Audio file be saved if not will this be added? Such as finding info from a data base for the music?
RadioBOSS only reads the tag, currently it does not read external sources to get metadata (anyway, it is very slow and is not really suitable for broadcasting).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Over-Da-Edge-Radio on March 09, 2019, 07:27:37 AM
So no way to edit the mp3 tags at all.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 09, 2019, 08:09:26 AM
So no way to edit the mp3 tags at all.
There are lots of ways. You can edit tags directly in RadioBOSS, using the track information panel under the playlist. You can also use the Track Tool or edit tags in Music Library.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on March 22, 2019, 10:18:45 PM
Dimitry, since RB 5.9 will take quite some time is there any chance that the filters will be applied in "AutoIntro" in the coming months?
It is a feature that if I remember correctly, RB 5.8 was programmed and quite expected by us.
We need to be able to step on the songs according to the decade to which they belong or based on a customizable field
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 24, 2019, 03:26:00 AM
I can't promise anything at the moment, those features are planned, and a new update (5.8.4) will be released next week, but it's mostly about fixing bugs and various minor issues.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on March 24, 2019, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: nelson c on March 05, 2019, 07:16:29 PM
I know about tracktool, but this tag is not available from the readtag and writetag commands. Will it be possible to add it?
Yes, this will be added in 5.8.4.
Ok, is there a chance with this?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on March 25, 2019, 01:22:10 AM
Ok, is there a chance with this?
Yes, in the next update - RB 5.8.4.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on May 27, 2019, 07:10:19 AM
Please try updating to the newer RadioBOSS 5.8.5.2, there was a bug fixed with scheduling.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on May 29, 2019, 07:43:45 AM
You can set the "Insert as regular playlist tracks" option for the playlist generator event, this will prevent this playlist from being deleted.

Depending on what version you have used before, starting from RadioBOSS 5.8 all scheduled events are deleted individually: after all tracks the event are played, those tracks are removed from the playlist. Older versions only deleted scheduled tracks when all tracks from all events in the playlist were played.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on May 31, 2019, 12:56:41 AM
Its now becoming clearer to me as to how the scheduling system is operating, and having had a re-read in the User Manual, I do see you specify to make that insertion (Insert as Regular Playlist Tracks) for large Playlists.
Not especially large, it's intended for music playlists mostly.

(1) Is the Daily Log saved somewhere ? As an option in settings to save it ? As a text file perhaps ?
Its my main resource for solving problems when things go wrong, and frustrating to have to scroll thru that tiny box all the time.
It's saved in the reports folder - click Settings->Open Reports folder to open it.

And also when we had two planned power cuts for maintenance a few days ago, nothing seems to be retained from earlier in that day, with the Daily Log starting from scratch again.
The log window only shows up to 2 past days, and the number of items is also limited to prevent scrolling problems.

I also want to work out why I need to create a 15 hour playlist to fit 12 hours too, particularly when so many scheduled events are taking place (fitting within the 12 hour playlist),
Please make sure that you account crossfades when you creating a playlist (it's in the playlist generator settings tab). Other than that, you typically only need to have playlist 30-60 minutes larger, just in case. 3 hours is too much.
Also make sure that "Read additional information" is also enabled in the playlist generator.

3) Are there any plans for Playlist Gen to create just one Playlist automatically broken down into 24 one hour segments, much more suited to recording voice-tracking, and which starts off each hour on the dot leaving behind unused surplus tracks from the previous hour ?
You can either create one 25h playlist, or 24 1-hour playlists, both is possible currently. When you create 24 playlists in one go, they all share the same no-repeat buffer, so it's better (and faster) to create all playlists in one go, than creating a new playlist every hour.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on July 28, 2019, 06:47:00 AM
This is because there is nothing saved in the REPORT folder for the generator to act on.
You have reports folder set in Program Files folder, but writing there is not permitted by default in Windows. Please use a different folder, or use a default report folder location: \Reports\ (this will make it save reports in the RadioBOSS settings folder).
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on July 28, 2019, 06:51:29 AM
A livestream event, recycling every 10 mins due to the fact that if I just loaded it as a normal one line option, it would often suddenly drop out and never return, never attempting to rejoin again, during the night.
If you specify duration for the stream, it will reconnect automatically in case the connection is closed: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/stream_and_podcast_playback.htm

it would never say in the log that it had dropped out, or recording any sort of problem with livestream. It was like it just moved on, straight on to the Playlist of music.
If stream duration is not set, any disconnect is treated as "track end" and it moves on to the next track in the playlist.

NOW the question is this, is it necessary to click FRI and SAT for a nonstop overnight event ?
Those options only control when the event starts. It does not affect how does it play, when it will end etc.

How it should work? I'm sure there's an easy solution.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on July 28, 2019, 03:09:07 PM
That's the theory... but in practice it will have a few goes at reconnecting, maybe half a dozen goes, and, then just drops out altogether. Its kinda like it just gives up.
Yes, it does give up after certain connect attempts failed, this is to avoid silence. You can adjust the attempts count and delay between them in Settings->General->Advanced configuration, "Stream playback" options. Just set the connection retries amount to something like 1000000 and this will suffice. You can also adjust the delay between retries.

There isn't much point in listening to a show to have it disappear altogether, so I had to do something to overcome this. A dis-connect shouldn't be ending everything, unless it is a true disconnection beyond my control.
If the default number of connection retries failed, this means the connection is poor (or non existent) or the stream is down.

The 10 min system is working really really well, excepting the neurotic events. Since I started it, its been vastly more reliable.
It will cause silence every 10 minutes. I'd start with fixing connection problems, why it fails too often, that RadioBOSS gives up on connection retries.

That's why in the past I have pushed for a START TIME and an END TIME to be entered in Events.
End time will work for long playlists to play only a certain amount from the playlist. It will not fix connection problems. What if event duration is set to 10 hours and stream failed for good after 30 minutes? Will it stay trying to connect for 9.5 hours, feeding silence to the air?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on July 31, 2019, 04:43:23 AM
Thank you. I was not aware of this setting. I am always finding out something new with many items hidden from plain sight in Radioboss, which can be frustrating to be honest. Things often seem to be in illogical places or require a right mouse click to find out they exist.
Some options are rarely needed and therefore hidden from plain sight to keep the UI clean. The "Advanced options" thing collects all the options most customers never need, but that are still of use in some cases. If you think that some options are in illogical places, please let us know.

Your only choice is to have the News kick in with an immediate start to over-ride the current event.
This means the News event always needs to be loaded with an immediate start.
Yes, and it is a recommended way to start news and other items that need to run on time. What changes to the listener if you have event end before the news? The result is the same, but news with out "Start immediately" is that reliable, as there can be some other tracks in the playlist that may play before the news.

This will become more important when you change the software to set up hours,  working by days of the week and varying times for each event for each day.
I don't think it's possible to make such changes in RadioBOSS as one of the main goals for us is to maintain close to 100% compatibility, even with older versions like released 10 years ago. Changing the way scheduler works will break things for many users. While I don't see what benefit it gives?

You will see that it jumped out twice from the Livestream, but without explanation of why it did so.
It may not have an explanation. If stream was disconnected, it will simply retry connection. It doesn't know why it disconnected.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on September 06, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
hello! sometimes, using the latest version, when we press the applications key nothing appears. we have to restart radio boss to use the applications key again. what i can do? it's my mistake or it's a bug?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on September 06, 2019, 06:34:09 PM
and the advansed settings is not accessible. just can see a edit box saying true or false, can't see the configs list or something to move to the next configuration.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 09, 2019, 11:05:23 AM
hello! sometimes, using the latest version, when we press the applications key nothing appears. we have to restart radio boss to use the applications key again. what i can do? it's my mistake or it's a bug?
Can you please specify what is "applications key"?

and the advansed settings is not accessible. just can see a edit box saying true or false, can't see the configs list or something to move to the next configuration.
It should show a list op options in a two-column table. Can you please send a screenshot that illustrates the problem?
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on September 10, 2019, 10:30:24 AM
i'm blind. and the problem is that i can't see the configs list or change it, just with te mouse. if i press tab, shows me a edit box showing true or false, but if i press tab again, shows the ok button. the applications key is the same combination of shift+f10, or the right mouse button. but if i press the right mouse button it shows me the context menu. but sometimes, the shift+f10 and applications key fails, and i have to restart RB to open the context menu again. the context menu that says for example, add to quewe, ETC.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 10, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
i'm blind. and the problem is that i can't see the configs list or change it, just with te mouse. if i press tab, shows me a edit box showing true or false, but if i press tab again, shows the ok button. the applications key is the same combination of shift+f10, or the right mouse button. but if i press the right mouse button it shows me the context menu. but sometimes, the shift+f10 and applications key fails, and i have to restart RB to open the context menu again. the context menu that says for example, add to quewe, ETC.
Yes, the app key sometimes indeed stops working, I was able to confirm it on one of the test machines. We'll see what can be done about it. Sorry for the inconvenience. We'll also try to make the advanced options dialog accessible.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: Nuno Costa on September 10, 2019, 12:54:55 PM
Would it be possible in a future release to be allowed to use two microphones at the same time on f8, or could we optionally enable line in along with the microphone instead of putting it in the playlist? why do i ask this? I, for example, no longer use skype to transmit. I use teamtalk or teamspeak. and I always have to keep doing mirabolance. once my volume is high and my friends are low, another time theirs is high and mine is low ... I wish it was possible to use or select a secondary microphone.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 12, 2019, 06:51:25 AM
Yes, we plan on adding a second MIC in one of the future updates.
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: nelson c on September 29, 2019, 08:00:22 PM
Hi Dmitry,
there is a chance that in the next beta version the streaming buffer will start loading before finishing the previous track. so that the silence that is heard now is not heard while the buffer is being loaded
Title: Re: RadioBOSS 5.8 [beta]
Post by: djsoft on September 30, 2019, 04:24:57 AM
there is a chance that in the next beta version the streaming buffer will start loading before finishing the previous track. so that the silence that is heard now is not heard while the buffer is being loaded
This is partially implemented and there's a chance that the feature will be complete in RadioBOSS 5.9.