patrick.de-bruyn
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the 64 bit version cannot work with VST plugins because they are 32 bit
RadioBOSS 6.1 [beta]
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Chathizpano Radio
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I was not referring to VST but to DSP and as I mentioned before version 6.1.0.3 beta x64
it worked correctly.
Anyway, thanks for your reply.
It tries to read typical fields where ReplayGain tags are stored, and if it doesn't find those fields (e.g the data is stored in different tag fields), then ReplayGain will not be loaded. Please consider using the Normalization feature instead: https://manual.djsoft.net/radioboss/en/normalizing-tracks.htm
Nothing was changed in 6.1.0.4 release regarding DSP/VST compared to .2 and .3 beta versions. Please ensure the plugin architecture matches the RadioBOSS architecture: https://www.djsoft.net/community/threads/using-vst-plugins-with-radioboss.4393/
Chathizpano Radio
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Hi Dmitry,
It's weird, as I said you don't see any plugin, not even the ones that RadioBOSS brings by default in the x64 version. Stereo Tool DSP plugin was downloaded from the official website which provides an .exe that then installs a .dll. With the previous versions I had no problem seeing and installing it.
Anyone else using Windows 11 Pro 21H2 build 22000.348 x64 bits who can shed light on this issue?
A lot of program still will now work on Windows 11 I would wait 6 to 10 months before switching to it.
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Chathizpano Radio
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I know that, Windows 11 is still very new, but if they are going to launch a new version of RB I think it might be time to adapt it to the new OS .. It is my humble opinion ...
mediosprodan
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I mark some errors that come from previous versions:
- very close to the 80/100 tracks in the playlist, there is still a small drag problem, especially when downloading a track, it drags some on its way.
- It would be a very important step if, in the event of an unexpected CPU blackout (power outage or unexpected Restart), the program resumes from where it was last time. In my case, yesterday the program returned to one of my first configurations 4 years ago and we had to manually load the last backup.
- In my RB There is still a small flicker on certain programmed tracks and on the album cover.
- It has happened to me that after days of not restarting RB the program becomes slow and hangs when opening file explorer, settings, preferences, etc. This did not happen to me before, or I am using the RB version wrong. I use the x64 version, WINDOWS 10, I have 8gb of RAM, 3.90 GHz.
- very close to the 80/100 tracks in the playlist, there is still a small drag problem, especially when downloading a track, it drags some on its way.
- It would be a very important step if, in the event of an unexpected CPU blackout (power outage or unexpected Restart), the program resumes from where it was last time. In my case, yesterday the program returned to one of my first configurations 4 years ago and we had to manually load the last backup.
- In my RB There is still a small flicker on certain programmed tracks and on the album cover.
- It has happened to me that after days of not restarting RB the program becomes slow and hangs when opening file explorer, settings, preferences, etc. This did not happen to me before, or I am using the RB version wrong. I use the x64 version, WINDOWS 10, I have 8gb of RAM, 3.90 GHz.
I understand.
It would not be a good idea to analyze all these points and save them in a kind of cache. It would take much less time to generate the blocks, and it would solve this problem.
I am referring to both advertisements and sweapers
The plugins that are shipped with RadioBOSS are internal plugins and are not supposed to be listed anywhere.
We have tested it on Windows 11 (I'm not sure what the exact version number was) and it was working properly, Stereo Tool plugin was loaded. Please try using the VST 64-bit version if you use 64-bit RadioBOSS, it should work.
There's nothing to adapt in RadioBOSS, it's already fully compatible with Windows 11. Maybe some external modules could have some problems, but core of RB does not require any adjustments.
I recall this was reported before, but we were never able to reproduce it.
It saves the state to the disk. If the data on the disk is lost, RadioBOSS can do nothing about it. Of course we can implement some complex system like saving settings to the cloud - but I doubt that this feature is really needed by users. If you want to avoid data loss, use UPS.
This is another bug were were not able to reproduce here. We have really tried
I check some instances that run for many months and there's no slowdown. If you use plugins, they could be the cause.
If you process tracks using the Music Library (or use the makelibrary command that performs processing) you can automatically get the Start/End points set - in this case, they will not require track re-scan and sweepers will work faster.
In case of 4 sweepers (or more) in a block, there would be much more permutations compared to 3 sweepers, and it can significantly slow down block creation process. I've added it to the to-do list, we'll try to find some solution for this in one of the next updates.
Chathizpano Radio
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I use ST Winamp/DSP plug-in version, it is an executable that installs a .dll and it is DSP (not VST).
So far I have been testing all the previous versions in silence because I did not find anything new to contribute.
This time I mentioned that because I really don't know what happens that the plugins are not listed.
I am currently using 32-bit version and it works fine, although I suppose that having an OS and a 64-bit processor x64 version would work more fluently.
There are no practical differences - RadioBOSS does not require huge amounts of memory and there's also no measurable speed difference. If 32-bit version works for you, stay with it.
Winamp DSP version will not work with 64-bit RadioBOSS because all Winamp DSP plugins are 32-bit and can't be loaded into 64-bit host application. Also there's quality degradation because Winamp DSP plugins use 16-bit integer while all processing in RadioBOSS and VST use 32-bit floating point data.
Chathizpano Radio
Member
Ok. Thank you for the clear and complete technical information that I was not aware of.
So I should use 32 bit VST, 64 bit would not work on RadioBoss right?
Stereo tool offers me 4 versions of VST, which one would work best?
VST 2 plugin for 32 bit hosts
VST 2 plugin for 64 bit hosts
VST 3 plugin for 32 bit hosts
VST 3 plugin for 64 bit hosts
ildefonso
New member
para cargar videos en una lista de reproducción, se abre una ventana y comienza a exiliarse y el video y la lista de reproducción no se pueden reproducir y la pantalla del video se vuelve negra
una sugerencia más podría incluir el reproductor auxiliar, puede controlar el volumen de forma independiente
una sugerencia más podría incluir el reproductor auxiliar, puede controlar el volumen de forma independiente
Chathizpano Radio
Member
VST sounds much better than DSP, thanks for letting me know the differences.
In fact, for future versions you could add support for VST3, which is an improved version of the classic VST2.
melwdos
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Good evening to all
I read all your messages and saw that there are many VSTs not shown on x64. From a test I did, you can convert dll x32 to x64 with the jBridget tool ( https://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/ ) costs only 15 € and works fine.
I converted JB Broadcast and it works perfectly.
I would also like to say to the RB administrators, the changes are very good and the new tools help a lot, like input 3. I did not find a problem with 6.1.0.4 elsewhere
Thanks.
Sorry if my English is not good!
I read all your messages and saw that there are many VSTs not shown on x64. From a test I did, you can convert dll x32 to x64 with the jBridget tool ( https://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/ ) costs only 15 € and works fine.
I converted JB Broadcast and it works perfectly.
I would also like to say to the RB administrators, the changes are very good and the new tools help a lot, like input 3. I did not find a problem with 6.1.0.4 elsewhere
Thanks.
Sorry if my English is not good!
Please write in English.
We have tried it but there were some technical issues with it - I don't recall what exactly. Maybe we'll do another try sometime in the future. It won't affect the sound quality anyway.In fact, for future versions you could add support for VST3, which is an improved version of the classic VST2.
This beta is different because most of the features were added in the first release - compared to previous betas where we released it before all features were ready. We have also revised the code so the overall quality is improved, resulting in fewer bugs and other issues.
